Open act of civil disobedience in DC on July 4th....

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  • SSGSAD

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    I have been hearing about this for months. I am NOT on FB. My boss is, and we both agree, that this is a terrible mistake. If anyone is shot or arrested, this could be disasterious, for the 2nd A..... JMHO, :twocents: .....
     

    Sgtusmc

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    I think the gov knows this puts themselves in a predicament of a potential disaster if they don't Handle this with kids gloves. I think DC might let Kokesh have his march and be done with it. Then maybe later, Kokesh might get arrested.

    If they stop the march on the DC side of the bridge and arrest Kokesh, the gov will be fueling the fire and they know it.
     

    yepthatsme

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    When one breaks unjust laws it doesn't mean you're no longer a law abiding person...

    I agree, but one must be ready for the consequences when breaking unjust laws. I think there are plenty of other avenues to take at this point instead of breaking the law. In my opinion, breaking the law would be the last resort since it could possibly lead to violence.

    We must remain the responsible people that we are and not try to display ourselves as lawless, anti-government fanatics.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    I think the gov knows this puts themselves in a predicament of a potential disaster if they don't Handle this with kids gloves. I think DC might let Kokesh have his march and be done with it. Then maybe later, Kokesh might get arrested.

    If they stop the march on the DC side of the bridge and arrest Kokesh, the gov will be fueling the fire and they know it.


    Ive seen pointed out they will never get out of the starting gate. The rally point is Arlington Natl Cemetary, which apparently has some pretty strict gun restrictions that for some reason extend beyond the property line for quite a bit (I assume like the 1,000' rule for school property) .

    Speculation is if they attempt to assemble as planned they will be arrested before they can even proceed toward the bridge. (I assume as they arrive)
     

    remauto1187

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    I agree, but one must be ready for the consequences when breaking unjust laws. I think there are plenty of other avenues to take at this point instead of breaking the law. In my opinion, breaking the law would be the last resort since it could possibly lead to violence.

    We must remain the responsible people that we are and not try to display ourselves as lawless, anti-government fanatics.

    What you talking about willis? If certain gentleman thought with that rationality about TEA things would be alot different right now, would it not? :dunno:
     

    GunnerDan

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    I agree, but one must be ready for the consequences when breaking unjust laws. I think there are plenty of other avenues to take at this point instead of breaking the law. In my opinion, breaking the law would be the last resort since it could possibly lead to violence.

    We must remain the responsible people that we are and not try to display ourselves as lawless, anti-government fanatics.

    Boy I sure am glad Rosa Parks decided to break a unjust law and refuse to move to "the back of the bus".

    Gunner
     

    apfroggy0408

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    There's a caveat to "breaking" unjust "laws", thy can't be broken because they can't be laws at all.

    It doesn't matter if you have a fancy piece of paper that says its a law or not.
     

    BogWalker

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    There's a caveat to "breaking" unjust "laws", thy can't be broken because they can't be laws at all.

    It doesn't matter if you have a fancy piece of paper that says its a law or not.
    I suppose we'll see you in Washington then? I mean, if it's an unjust law that means they can't arrest anybody for it, right? That fancy piece of paper is what makes it a law, unjust or not. These folks are trying to toss out that fancy piece of paper.
     

    remauto1187

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    I suppose we'll see you in Washington then? I mean, if it's an unjust law that means they can't arrest anybody for it, right? That fancy piece of paper is what makes it a law, unjust or not. These folks are trying to toss out that fancy piece of paper.

    "They" can arrest "you" for anything they want....whether it sticks come court time is another story....its that long trip through the court system that is all the "fun".
     

    ViperJock

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    There's a caveat to "breaking" unjust "laws", thy can't be broken because they can't be laws at all.

    It doesn't matter if you have a fancy piece of paper that says its a law or not.

    Thats one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. A law is a law is a law. Breaking a law, no matter how "unjust" will still land you in a heap of trouble--if you get caught. And since the whole premise of this civil disobedience is to get caught....

    Let me know how that philoso[hy works out for you. What are the laws you consider "unjust?" Is the individual the bottom line or is there some sort of "unjust law committee?"
     

    japartridge

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    An unjust law is still a law; however if a law is unconstitutional, then it is not SUPPOSED to be a law, if it is, then we should not obey it... but that takes a more where-with-all then most of us, including me, have right now... I would hope that I could work up to it, but I don't know if I would or not... I have a family and responsibilities and ending up in jail or prison would not be conducive to those things. For me, at least for now, we are not to the breaking point.
     

    apfroggy0408

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    The caveat is in response just because one breaks unjust laws it doesn't make you a non law abiding individual because they're not really laws.

    Obviously the intention of civil disobedience is to show how ridiculous laws certain laws are.

    So when that fancy piece of paper says owning guns is against the law, you'll all accept that as truth?

    St. Thomas Aquinas has answered the questions about unjust law and natural law already.
     

    apfroggy0408

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    “An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law”
    ― Martin Luther King Jr.
     
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