Open Carry [which is legal] in Michigan = Detained at gunpoint?

[Destro]

So then a person who IS NOT COMMITTING A CRIME BY WALKING DOWN THE STREET can be detained using a Terry stop, I think not... What does it say, "reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity" Lets see, just carrying a gun is NOT reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The Supreme Court has already ruled that when the carrying of arms is legal, there is no reasonable suspicion of criminal activity that raises the level to justify a Terry stop.

I figured you would attempt to bring up a Terry stop, and it just isnt so. Whatever cop stopped him should have to PERSONALLY pay the lawsuit that this guy will win, along with whatever court fees and if they cant then the cop should end up in jail, plain and simple. As I said before until the police stop with the heavy-handed Unconstitutional stops people will continue to despise the police.

Gunner

the gun was not the initial reason for the investigative stop, it was the citizens calls to police of a suspicious person. The holstered firearm was incidental to the encounter. The officer was dispatched, and upon arrival noted the odd behavior of the subject. He also noted the subject was armed. The officer had RS for a frisk because he knew the subject to be armed. The officer took control of the firearm, and after a brief investigation he was free to leave.

 

[GunnerDan]

the gun was not the initial reason for the investigative stop, it was the citizens calls to police of a suspicious person. The holstered firearm was incidental to the encounter. The officer was dispatched, and upon arrival noted the odd behavior of the subject. He also noted the subject was armed. The officer had RS for a frisk because he knew the subject to be armed. The officer took control of the firearm, and after a brief investigation he was free to leave.

So, I have on a bluetooth headset and I am talking to someone, and someone else sees me "talking to myself" then it is raised to a Terry stop to stop and demand ID, and to check to see if I am a felon or not. You obviously are clueless as to what is and what is not considered a Terry stop.

Gunner

 

[rambone]

This cop thinks he supports the 2nd Amendment.

Taste that freedom.

 

[Bunnykid68]

the gun was not the initial reason for the investigative stop, it was the citizens calls to police of a suspicious person. The holstered firearm was incidental to the encounter. The officer was dispatched, and upon arrival noted the odd behavior of the subject. He also noted the subject was armed. The officer had RS for a frisk because he knew the subject to be armed. The officer took control of the firearm, and after a brief investigation he was free to leave.

According to the article " Police first dispatched an officer to investigate a “suspicious person” with a holstered firearm." It would seem the person seemed suspicious because he had a holstered firearm. What was suspicious? Walking down the street or walking down the street with a holstered firearm?

 

[GunnerDan]

According to the article " Police first dispatched an officer to investigate a “suspicious person” with a holstered firearm." It would seem the person seemed suspicious because he had a holstered firearm. What was suspicious? Walking down the street or walking down the street with a holstered firearm?

Well, if you ask Destro he will tell you that anything a person could possibly be doing is suspect.

Gunner

 

[Destro]

You obviously are clueless as to what is and what is not considered a Terry stop.

I get that a lot....

 

[hornadylnl]

According to the article " Police first dispatched an officer to investigate a “suspicious person” with a holstered firearm." It would seem the person seemed suspicious because he had a holstered firearm. What was suspicious? Walking down the street or walking down the street with a holstered firearm?

Wearing a hoodie or soliciting door to door is suspicious and worthy of a police stop.

 

[GunnerDan]

Wearing a hoodie or soliciting door to door is suspicious and worthy of a police stop.

Remember, anything and everything is considered suspicious and warrants police intervention. What about the grandfather at the park with his grandkids being forced with threat of arrest to provide ID because he was watching young kids... These are the kinds of things that really get my blood boiling. I would refuse to provide any identification whatsoever possible being arrested and then get me a really nice payday all at the taxpayers expense. But as I mentioned before, until the police are held personally accountable both legally and financially then these kinds of Unconstitutional infringements will continue to happen. Again, no wonder people hate the police anymore.

Gunner

 

[Bunnykid68]

Wearing a hoodie or soliciting door to door is suspicious and worthy of a police stop.

Really?

 

[hornadylnl]

Really?

You new to INGO?

 

[Destro]

\ I would refuse to provide any identification whatsoever possible being arrested and then get me a really nice payday all at the taxpayers expense.

sounds like a plan