Okay…..Time to get back on track. How about defense scenarios games or training exercises that have multiple targets in CQC style that require 2 hits per target before transition. While this increases the round count for the games it defeats CQC where you simply take longer to neutralize the total of targets. Or in other words, increase your transition time. Perhaps if that is all these shooters believe about defensive gun play then they might want to get the t-shirt…”I shoot dead people”