All I can say is wow. Dunno the whole story but the convo gives me a headache.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFrea...cer_pulling_out_his_gun_on_a_student_outside/
Without the full conversation it's not worth listening to. We all know how easy it is to manipulate audio to serve a purpose. Of course a LARGE percentage of the populations is EASILY swayed by rumors and innuendo.
I’m not real sure what the purpose of the stop and detention was. Ok, so trespass is a problem there, but trespass itself isn’t usually the issue, it’s what those trespassers are doing that’s generally the problem (harassing residents, smoking, drinking, pan handling etc...). This dude was picking up trash with tools commonly associated with that task. Also, I was in college once, and my ID absolutely did not have my dorm address on it...I don’t think anyone I knew then had their college address on their ID.
This encounter, or the part the video shows, doesn’t seem to pass the reasonableness test we got from Graham vs. Connor. The nature and quality of the intrusion vs the government interest at stake. Unless there is more info, like a 911 call that brings the officer to that location because the suspect was being complained against for doing something I might have mentioned above, it doesn’t seem like he should have been detained at taser point.
All I am saying is that if the officer created this encounter on his own then I can’t see a logical reason for it. There are a lot of context clues that the dude was not breaking the law.
Come on dude, are you really serious here? What more of the conversation do you need? What part of the conversation do you suspect is being manipulated? The actions and body language seem to go right along with the video. I dont understand what part of the video is difficult to believe.
The thing that blows my mind (not necessarily directed at you) is that whenever a short video or audio clip of some politician surfaces, everyone jumps on it, Glenn Beck does a whole radio show on it, and it goes viral on social media with people calling for heads to roll. But whenever it is a cop, (around here at least) we get the response of "Well, we dont know the whole story. Lets not be too quick to judge". How about we just start being reasonable and call a spade a spade.
What was laughable was the way thr LEO described the reacher as "blunt object" while calling for back up. The reacher is commonly used by older people in the nursing home.
I’m not real sure what the purpose of the stop and detention was. Ok, so trespass is a problem there, but trespass itself isn’t usually the issue, it’s what those trespassers are doing that’s generally the problem (harassing residents, smoking, drinking, pan handling etc...). This dude was picking up trash with tools commonly associated with that task. Also, I was in college once, and my ID absolutely did not have my dorm address on it...I don’t think anyone I knew then had their college address on their ID.
This encounter, or the part the video shows, doesn’t seem to pass the reasonableness test we got from Graham vs. Connor. The nature and quality of the intrusion vs the government interest at stake. Unless there is more info, like a 911 call that brings the officer to that location because the suspect was being complained against for doing something I might have mentioned above, it doesn’t seem like he should have been detained at taser point.
All I am saying is that if the officer created this encounter on his own then I can’t see a logical reason for it. There are a lot of context clues that the dude was not breaking the law.
I wish he would come trespass on my property. I would even bring him out a beer.
Right?!