RED FLAG EXPANSION bill here in Indiana

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[CitizenX]

Done!

 

[KellyinAvon]

Guy has spoke about this bill a few times. In the 2023 Legislative Session thread I posted my concern (lack of due process.)

This bill is assigned to the Corrections and Criminal Law Committee and has not been scheduled for a hearing at this point.

 

[KLB]

Feels like email harvesting to me.

 

[DadSmith]

Upcoming Supreme Court’s docket..
This term, the Court will hear‌ Caniglia v. Strom, which examines the scope of the Fourth Amendment’s “community caretaking” exception. The case involves ‌a warrantless seizure of firearms from an individual’s home ‍by law enforcement based ⁤on concerns for the⁤ person’s well-being. The Court’s ruling could impact the extent to which law enforcement⁢ can enter homes without⁣ a warrant in the name of public safety.

 

[indyartisan]

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Upcoming Supreme Court’s docket..
This term, the Court will hear‌ Caniglia v. Strom, which examines the scope of the Fourth Amendment’s “community caretaking” exception. The case involves ‌a warrantless seizure of firearms from an individual’s home ‍by law enforcement based ⁤on concerns for the⁤ person’s well-being. The Court’s ruling could impact the extent to which law enforcement⁢ can enter homes without⁣ a warrant in the name of public safety.

Are they hearing this a second time? SCOTUS issued it's opinion on this in 2021.

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[DadSmith]

Are they hearing this a second time? SCOTUS issued it's opinion on this in 2021.

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I believe so. I posted exactly what I read. I do not have a link for it.

 

[loudgroove]

I've been back to Indiana for a year n half now. There wasn't a red flag law when I left. Can someone explain how it works in this state?

 

[Onebad06vtx]

I've been back to Indiana for a year n half now. There wasn't a red flag law when I left. Can someone explain how it works in this state?

I tell the cops that your dangerous,they come take your guns.
Guilty until proven innocent !

 

[loudgroove]

I tell the cops that your dangerous,they come take your guns.
Guilty until proven innocent !

And what happens if I refuse? Also when I left, Indiana was NOT a blue state!! Thats some blue state crap!!

 

[bwframe]

Indiana quickly passed the red flag law here in the height of emotion, after a longtime IMPD officer was killed by a known nutjob that was off his meds.

Guy Relford somewhat spearheaded "fixing" our red flag law, making some improvements to the worst of it a few years after it was voted in.

The red flag law still bypasses due process though. There is still an officer at your door making the call on whether your firearms are immediately confiscated or not.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I believe so. I posted exactly what I read. I do not have a link for it.

I'm guessing you either saw and old article or someone reposted old news. I can't find anything on it since 2021.

 

[loudgroove]

Indiana quickly passed the red flag law here, in the height of emotions, after a longtime IMPD officer was killed by a known nutjob that was off his meds.

Guy Relford somewhat spearheaded "fixing" our red flag law, making some improvements to the worst of it a few years after it was voted in.

The red flag law still bypasses due process though. There is still an officer at your door making the call on whether your firearms are immediately confiscated or not.

Still a Judge should have to sign off on it before it is constitutional. A L.O. should only be able to detain. not take personal property. Otherwise, they better take all my kitchen knives and hammers ETC.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Indiana quickly passed the red flag law here in the height of emotion, after a longtime IMPD officer was killed by a known nutjob that was off his meds.

Guy Relford somewhat spearheaded "fixing" our red flag law, making some improvements to the worst of it a few years after it was voted in.

The red flag law still bypasses due process though. There is still an officer at your door making the call on whether your firearms are immediately confiscated or not.

It passed into law in 2005. The significant changes were made in 2019 IIRC.

I testified in support of the change. I opened with the 4th Amendment and the due process clause of the 5th Amendment and stated this is where we should start.

January is coming!

 

[Denny347]

I've been back to Indiana for a year n half now. There wasn't a red flag law when I left. Can someone explain how it works in this state?

You must have been gone awhile since it's been on the books since 2005

 

[bobzilla]

You must have been gone awhile since it's been on the books since 2005

Great you just Denny’d the thread….. wait…. Never mind. Carry on.

 

[JAL]

Jack Sandlin died about two weeks ago. Bill lost its significant "R" champion. The BIG issue is going to be overcoming the Fed $$$$$ carrot. Next issue is who replaces Sandlin.

 

[loudgroove]

You must have been gone awhile since it's been on the books since 2005

I left in 07. For the life of me, I don't remember this happening and would have been very angry over it. But from 04 till I left, I was working 2 jobs and playing drums in a very active local cover band. And also at that time my nephew had already graduated the police academy and was a reserve cop down in Allen County. He was always talking about stuff like that. I'm at a loss for words.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I tell the cops that your dangerous,they come take your guns.
Guilty until proven innocent !

Not really.