I know someone here said something about a local news station, but maybe a letter to the editor of the local new paper, or contacting them and asking them simply if they would be interested in covering. Get the right guy and he will be all over it. I am going to ask a guy who writes for them about it and see if he himself or anyone else would possibly be interested.
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Rose-Hulman Rifle Team Forced To Shut Down - Speak Out INGO
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This was just posted in the RH Parents FaceBook Page:
Jason LaBellaThe Rose-Hulman Rifle Team
It is with great sadness that I announce that the keys to the range were handed over to Public Safety last night. The gun room looks like we are traveling to an away match. All of the rifles are locked up in the Public Safety Office for safe keeping until they are sold. I was told I am to be in charge of the liquidation of the assets, the truth will be seen in the coming weeks.
It has been a hell of a ride. We have accomplished much over the past century or so, trophies, records, awards, but this is the least that we accomplished. Over the course of my 15 year involvement with the team, I think back to the number of shooters that have passed through the door, the huge number of students that have come for tryouts, the life lessons that were learned through hard work and perseverance, and the fun times and laughs that echoed and filled those walls. Those are the true accomplishments of the team, and what we should be most proud of and should focus our memory on.
I wish there was some magic trick I had to make the last 7 months of my Rose life be just a dream, but with a tear in my eye I must say for the last time: STOP, CEASE FIRE, THE LINE IS COLD. Thank you everyone for your support, and I'll be in touch on the next chapter when it is determined.
Jason LaBellaThe Rose-Hulman Rifle Team
It is with great sadness that I announce that the keys to the range were handed over to Public Safety last night. The gun room looks like we are traveling to an away match. All of the rifles are locked up in the Public Safety Office for safe keeping until they are sold. I was told I am to be in charge of the liquidation of the assets, the truth will be seen in the coming weeks.
It has been a hell of a ride. We have accomplished much over the past century or so, trophies, records, awards, but this is the least that we accomplished. Over the course of my 15 year involvement with the team, I think back to the number of shooters that have passed through the door, the huge number of students that have come for tryouts, the life lessons that were learned through hard work and perseverance, and the fun times and laughs that echoed and filled those walls. Those are the true accomplishments of the team, and what we should be most proud of and should focus our memory on.
I wish there was some magic trick I had to make the last 7 months of my Rose life be just a dream, but with a tear in my eye I must say for the last time: STOP, CEASE FIRE, THE LINE IS COLD. Thank you everyone for your support, and I'll be in touch on the next chapter when it is determined.
jblomenberg16
Grandmaster
If there isn't some acceptable "next chapter", I'll have to tell the poor work-study student that calls me about annual giving that, until the Rifle Team returns, I'll be donating annually to the Second Amendment Foundation instead.
An answer with no answers!
I wonder if we could help "sponsor" a club by buying their existing rifles and gear and find a place for the student shooters to use it, independent of the school. They wouldn't be able to compete as "Rose-Hulman," but at least they'd be able shoot and get coached (if the coach were willing to continue) and compete as individuals.
jblomenberg16
Grandmaster
Liberals .....
I wouldn't be so fast to say this is that black and white.
I haven't had a recent discussion with Dr. Conwell just yet, but my previous dealings with him in unrelated topics make me think that he's a pretty rational and logical guy. I could be wrong, but I don't think this is an off the cuff decision by an overly liberal or anti-2A administration.
I've spoken to some contacts in the NCAA and haven't gotten much clarity either on the rules, other than there are no "Divisions" to speak of like you'd have in some of the main sports like Football, Basketball, etc. What that means is all schools compete together regardless of size or funding of scholarships etc.
IF I were to speculate (dangerous), I'd bet there are some significant insurance and legal liability hurdles facing RHIT and other schools. That is probably the cost benefit decision they are taking. Given the hyper sensitivity to gun violence right, I'd imagine insurance companies are factoring in Rifle teams as a very high risk to the school, and as such want to charge a premium for it. NCAA might be in a similar situation and could be passing those costs on to the schools. I honestly don't know what sort of policy the school uses, or if they are self insured to a point like some other larger institutions are.
When I played football at RHIT (D-III) there were some insurance things we had to work through that made it clear what the school was responsible for (accidents while travelling, etc) and what I was responsible for (personal injury, etc.).
jblomenberg16
Grandmaster
Evidence? I'm not saying they aren't, but I'm saying as someone educated to make decisions on facts, not emotions, I'm not seeing much evidence either way and right now it seems largely emotional.
So why do you think the president chose to assert a non-existent rule as the reason for his decision?
If quote attributed to him are true (regarding the alleged NCAA requirement for the rifle to compete only against schools its own size), then it's either a huge lie, or he is ignorant of the rules that he claims drove his decision. Either way, it's bad.
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Yes.
Which begs the question, if someone will lie about something like this (again, predicated on the accuracy of the quotes), then what other lies has he told and what lies are forthcoming? People don't just drop a whopper and then move forward in life without ever prevaricating again. It's always a pattern.
JeremiahJohnson
Master
There are no rules changes.
I can find no other DIII schools closing their rifle teams (someone correct me if you find one).
This is squarely on the President and AD. jblomenburg16, you can talk to him and try to get the real reason, but you won't get one. You can tell him (again) for me thanks for ending a long and successful self-sustaining program at RHIT. Nice legacy.
I can find no other DIII schools closing their rifle teams (someone correct me if you find one).
This is squarely on the President and AD. jblomenburg16, you can talk to him and try to get the real reason, but you won't get one. You can tell him (again) for me thanks for ending a long and successful self-sustaining program at RHIT. Nice legacy.
Occam's Razor.
Would anyone take a fraction of the issue if he had simply said: "sorry, the insurance costs are too high, both in absolute terms (X), and relative to other sports and club activities (Y)" - assuming that were the actual issue?
JeremiahJohnson
Master
That would be an actual reason that people could understand. If I were going to lie...I'd use that one up front and hope no one checked into it.
Unlikely! I would be disappointed, but insurance costs are a reality of modern life.
I just don't like lying or liars. It's unacceptable. And it's insulting when it so obviously a lie. Don't pi** down my neck and then tell me it's raining.
terrehautian
Master
I will suggest it to the news department again.
eldirector
Grandmaster
I've shared this with my father and two uncles that were all Rose grads. My dad attended in the 60's. His recollection is that ALL students were in ROTC, and all were trained on the rifle range. My, times have changed.
