Rural King is looking for trouble

[Kirk Freeman]

I'm more worried that even gun owners will attempt to twist their policy choice into somehow "taking care of the problem", as if guns have ever been the problem.

Turning a blind eye to the enormous gun running pipeline from Lafayette to Chicago will not help anyone.

 

[ATM]

Turning a blind eye to the enormous gun running pipeline from Lafayette to Chicago will not help anyone.

Why would I have a problem with gun running pipelines if I don't consider that guns have ever been the problem? Hmm?

Where do you intend to go with this line of thought? You're not adopting just a bit of the anti-gun hype are you?

I will steer you out of it.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Just for fun, I am going to use the First Amendment to defend Rural King. You will notice that all the freedoms enumerated in the First Amendment necessarily rest on the freedom of thought. The freedom of thought ultimately devolves into the 'right to be wrong'. That said, RK has the right to believe patently stupid ideas and set their policies accordingly. This does not, however, nullify my right to bring attention to the stupidity in their ideas or their deeds.

 

[ATM]

Just for fun, I am going to use the First Amendment to defend Rural King. You will notice that all the freedoms enumerated in the First Amendment necessarily rest on the freedom of thought. The freedom of thought ultimately devolves into the 'right to be wrong'. That said, RK has the right to believe patently stupid ideas and set their policies accordingly. This does not, however, nullify my right to bring attention to the stupidity in their ideas or their deeds.

A fine exercise.

That said, RK also has the right to believe that patently stupid government agencies will maintain various forms of coercive pressure against their livelihood if they don't acquiesce to certain "suggestions" and set their policies accordingly.

Nobody could really blame them, one way or the other, but the latter seems far more reasonable (and likely), at least to me.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why would I have a problem with gun running pipelines if I don't consider that guns have ever been the problem? Hmm?

Guns aren't the problem, it's the people coming to Lafayette to fill up duffel bags full of guns at the Lafayette gun shows or going from Lafayette gun store to Lafayette gun store to buy guns for the Black Gangster Disciples, Black Knights and Latin Kings.

It does us no good to pretend that this is not happening.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Guns aren't the problem, it's the people coming to Lafayette to fill up duffel bags full of guns at the Lafayette gun shows or going from Lafayette gun store to Lafayette gun store to buy guns for the Black Gangster Disciples, Black Knights and Latin Kings.

It does us no good to pretend that this is not happening.

Fair enough. Let's get to work banning criminal gangs.

 

[ATM]

Guns aren't the problem, it's the people coming to Lafayette to fill up duffel bags full of guns at the Lafayette gun shows or going from Lafayette gun store to Lafayette gun store to buy guns for the Black Gangster Disciples, Black Knights and Latin Kings.

It does us no good to pretend that this is not happening.

I don't need to pretend it's not happening, I believe guns should be available for purchase in Chicago.

 

[ATM]

Fair enough. Let's get to work banning criminal gangs.

That makes sense.

 

[billybob44]

Fair enough. Let's get to work banning criminal gangs.

Do you mean like using some of the Laws already in place??

How about making some more laws that we do NOT enforce????..Seems like that is the way it has worked for a LONG time...Bill.

 

[Spear Dane]

I just heard that the Teal Rd. Rural King in Lafayette has a new policy regarding firearms sales, and I think it could cause them a headache.
A friend called tonight to tell me that Rural King denied a sale to him.
They didn't even run a check, they never started the sale.

They told him they will not accept an Indiana state I.D. card for a firearms sale.
Told him it had to be a drivers license or NO SALE!

Seems the ATF is coming down on Rural King because too many guns from the Lafayette store are ending up on the streets in Chiraq.
My buddy called Rural King corporate, who put him in touch with their ATF compliance officer.
This lady told him that too many people were obtaining an Indiana state I.D. just to purchase firearms, then run the to Chicago to sell on the streets.

While I understand Rural King's concern, I don't think it's entirely legal to deny a sale based on this policy.
Federal law, if I'm not mistaken, says that a state issued I.D. is required to complete a firearms transaction.
Most use a drivers license, but some can't, or don't, obtain a drivers license for whatever reason.

Ingo attorneys, what say you?
Is this policy kosher?

Forget RK. Why does your friend only have a state ID?

 

[churchmouse]

Forget RK. Why does your friend only have a state ID?

That was my thought.

 

[Mgderf]

Forget RK. Why does your friend only have a state ID?

He is unable to obtain a drivers license.
Being legally blind in both eyes makes passing a driving test impossible...

 

[churchmouse]

He is unable to obtain a drivers license.
Being legally blind in both eyes makes passing a driving test impossible...

Thanks.

 

[Gluemanz28]

He is unable to obtain a drivers license.
Being legally blind in both eyes makes passing a driving test impossible...

I hope the guy at RK was going to suggest night sights for your buddy.

 

[possum_128]

So he's legally blind in both eyes and wants to buy a gun? Well if he's too blind to drive a car methinks he just might be too blind to shoot a gun. I know I would not want to share a range with a blind person shooting a gun. Nor would I feel good with selling a blind person a gun.

 

[eldirector]

So he's legally blind in both eyes and wants to buy a gun? Well if he's too blind to drive a car methinks he just might be too blind to shoot a gun. I know I would not want to share a range with a blind person shooting a gun. Nor would I feel good with selling a blind person a gun.

On of the beauties of freedom. You can not like it, and he can not care.

He may be a collector. May just want to own one for kicks. May even want to go shooting. You'd be surprised how many "legally blind" people can see well enough to do just about anything they set their mind to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carey_McWilliams_(marksman)

Besides, the BMV's definition of "too blind to drive" certainly isn't that you are actually blind.
: Vision Screening

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So he's legally blind in both eyes and wants to buy a gun? Well if he's too blind to drive a car methinks he just might be too blind to shoot a gun. I know I would not want to share a range with a blind person shooting a gun. Nor would I feel good with selling a blind person a gun.

Please understand that "legally blind" does not mean blind. "Legally blind" means cannot be corrected better than 20/200.

He can see, but it is fuzzy as he has an eye condition(s) (e.g. keratoconus) that prevents his eyes from being corrected.

It is a common misconception and I merely wanted to ensure that everyone understands what it means.

*Kirk "Zombie Eye" Freeman (I read so many eye mags during my ALK surgery for my left eye that I am half way to becoming a professor of ophthalmology).

 

[ATM]

So he's legally blind in both eyes and wants to buy a gun? Well if he's too blind to drive a car methinks he just might be too blind to shoot a gun. I know I would not want to share a range with a blind person shooting a gun. Nor would I feel good with selling a blind person a gun.

Would you deny my blind friend his sword as well?

[video=youtube;p7aigA4gPiw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7aigA4gPiw[/video]

Good luck!

 

[JettaKnight]

So he's legally blind in both eyes and wants to buy a gun? Well if he's too blind to drive a car methinks he just might be too blind to shoot a gun. I know I would not want to share a range with a blind person shooting a gun. Nor would I feel good with selling a blind person a gun.

I went shooting with a boss that was legally blind after he bought a pistol.

I've seen worse shooters.

 

[Spear Dane]

He is unable to obtain a drivers license.
Being legally blind in both eyes makes passing a driving test impossible...

Understandable then. Well it's unfortunate he is caught up in their policy. But that's a chance for an LGS to earn his business.