Senate to Vote on the S.649 TODAY 4-17 - 4 pm

[CarmelHP]

I think people are underestimating this fight. CNN is already campaigning against. Another shooting happens and there will be plenty of blame for them to sling out. I don't want to seem like I'm hot overjoyed that we won this fight but this one is going to be a long one.

Unless you remember the '70's or '80's you don't know what a long fight is. Remember San Ysidro, The "Cop Killer Bullet" furor, Stockton, or Luby's? The NRA was a 10th of it's current size. The '80's was one long string of demonizations and legislative attacks building to 1994 with very few wins for us. This is a walk in the park in comparision. Everybody put on their big boy pants and we'll be fine.

 

[SaintsNSinners]

I just want to see some video... I didnt get to watch it since I was working

 

[MTC]

Unless you remember the '70's or '80's you don't know what a long fight is. Remember San Ysidro, The "Cop Killer Bullet" furor, Stockton, or Luby's? The NRA was a 10th of it's current size. The '80's was one long string of demonizations and legislative attacks building to 1994 with very few wins for us. This is a walk in the park in comparision. Everybody put on their big boy pants and we'll be fine.

Thank you for your many posts recalling events over the past 30+ years.

So, figuratively, this latest attack by the communists was mowed down, but dangerously close to the wire. Wanted to play something to inspire the troops as they reload magazines and change barrels whilst preparing for the next mass attack by the bolshevik hordes.

Meant to put in Kirk's thread since he mentioned victory.
May it please His Excellency ...

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[EvilElmo]

There is a reason gun owners are easily painted as ignorant, paranoid bigots. It isn't like a lot of people make an effort to look any different.

I'm not ignorant or paranoid. The fact that he voted for any of this garbage is all the reason I need. He stood up to be counted with those who are working to violate our rights, so I will work to get him out of office. There was not a single issue voted on yesterday that would do anything to curb violent crime or improve public safety - it's all about controlling the decent people instead and another baby step toward total confiscation.

Whether or not he kept his word about what he would do is of little comfort. That just means that when he tells us he's going to violate our rights and turn us into criminals that we can trust that he means it. Feinswine is honest about what she intends for the 2nd Amendment too. I suppose that's better than him lying and saying he won't and then stabbing us in the collective back, but not by much. An honest enemy of the 2nd is still an enemy.

 

[mbills2223]

Unless you remember the '70's or '80's you don't know what a long fight is. Remember San Ysidro, The "Cop Killer Bullet" furor, Stockton, or Luby's? The NRA was a 10th of it's current size. The '80's was one long string of demonizations and legislative attacks building to 1994 with very few wins for us. This is a walk in the park in comparision. Everybody put on their big boy pants and we'll be fine.

Perhaps this is a "walk in the park" by comparison, but that doesn't mean we can underestimate the attack on the 2nd Amendment. You lose even the easiest of fights if you don't show up.

I just want to see some video... I didnt get to watch it since I was working

I was able to record this little gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8cvLMu2iNbA

Excuse my laughter.

 

[cbhausen]

More votes today at high noon:

Live Video - C-SPAN2 | C-SPAN

 

[xfrostybeersx]

Oh ****, Hearing a lot of "I"'s

Edit: Just heard Coats voted "I"

Barrasso Amendment

 

[xfrostybeersx]

Barrasso Amendment passes Yah 67 no 30

 

[BigMoose]

Barrasso Amendment passes Yah 67 no 30

Poison pill got tossed on!

Fienstien and Reid NV voted no.

They are voting on an amendment that has nothing to do with guns now.

 

[dnurk]

Poison pill got tossed on!

Fienstien and Reid NV voted no.

They are voting on an amendment that has nothing to do with guns now.

Correct. That amendment actually made sense. No way they vote for the bill package now.

Senate Republicans: We're not quitting on gun bill

 

[BigMoose]

Everyone is voting to add the non gun amendment for Mental Health funding.

That should be it's own bill.

Nothing else until 2pm our time

 

[canav844]

Nothing else until 2pm our time

And that appears to be judicial nominations and subcommittees...any word on when the actual bill will be voted on? I'm getting a little tired of holding my breath here.

 

[xfrostybeersx]

Last amendment before lunch break voted 95 yea to 2 no

 

[BigMoose]

And that appears to be judicial nominations and subcommittees...any word on when the actual bill will be voted on? I'm getting a little tired of holding my breath here.

It may never be, it just dies.

It's pretty dead now

 

[A 7.62 Exodus]

Can someone summarize the two bills that passed today for me?

 

[Bennettjh]

Can someone summarize the two bills that passed today for me?

Yeah I would like to know too.

 

[BigMoose]

One was a poison pill, it would take away much federal funding for law enforcement to anyone that release gun owner info publicly.

The other was a touchy feelly that added funding to the mental health system. No gun language in it whatsoever. I am thinking that Reid NV may amend his bill himself and remove everything but this amendment as a latch ditch to salvage something.

All in all MORE WIN TODAY.

 

[Caleb]

One was a poison pill, it would take away much federal funding for law enforcement to anyone that release gun owner info publicly.

The other was a touchy feely that added funding to the mental health system. No gun language in it whatsoever.

Sounds like poison pill would be good for us

 

[BigMoose]

Sounds like poison pill would be good for us

Yes

But the primary trick of a poison pill is to force an amendment on a bill that the original sponsor hates enough to abandon the bill. Or just enough people of his party to make it impassible.

This is a BIG win today too.

 

[HenryWallace]

Protecting gun owners’ privacy passed 67-30: This amendment, authored by John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), would limit the ability of state governments to release the names of gun owners. He cited a New York newspaper’s publication of a map of local gun owners, using information received from county officials. It’s the only of the gun amendments that actually deals with guns to pass. Twenty-two Democrats supported it: Baucus, Begich, Bennet, Bob Casey (Pa.), Chris Coons (Del.), Donnelly, Hagan, Heinrich, Heitkamp, Tim Kaine (Va.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.), Landrieu, Manchin, McCaskill, Merkley, Pryor, Shaheen, Tester, Udall, Udall, Warner, and Ron Wyden (Ore.).

Mental health funding passed 98-2: A proposal from Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) to improve mental health services in schools and boost support for suicide prevention programs. The amendment does not deal with guns at all.