Shots Fired at Truck with MAGA Flag on I-465

[oldpink]

Sovereign citizens have killed at least two police officers per year for the last five years...not a single one of those guys is a "leftist".

Antifa's death toll in that same period: 0 (unless you count the ones that got THEMSELVES killed in the process, lol)

Blame doesn't fix anything, it only serves our own egos. It's hard for me to see this as a strictly "left-wing" creation, considering the mainstream right has been floating "second amendment remedies" publicly (and loudly) for about a decade now.

Ever hear of those who call themselves members of Moorish Science?
To say that not a single slobbering ****izen is a leftist is flat wrong, not by a longshot, and the abundant vids of them demonstrate that quite easily.
The vids of ANTIFA losers stabbing and hitting other people with bike locks are also out there, at least for those willing to see them.

 

[PaulF]

Ever hear of those who call themselves members of Moorish Science?
To say that not a single slobbering ****izen is a leftist is flat wrong, not by a longshot, and the abundant vids of them demonstrate that quite easily.
The vids of ANTIFA losers stabbing and hitting other people with bike locks are also out there, at least for those willing to see them.

This is exactly what I'm talking about: you are attempting to "no true Scotsman" your way out of admitting valid examples of right-wing violence.

The sovereign movement is inherently anti-establishment, including "moorish science", which places it firmly in the right-wing. Leftists want more goverment (of their own politicians, of course), not less.

Trying to pretend "our side" doesn't do these things isn't helping anyone.

 

[Kaneda13]

Trying to pretend "our side" doesn't do these things isn't helping anyone.

It helps those who don't want responsibility sleep better at night.

 

[JTScribe]

Sovereign citizens have killed at least two police officers per year for the last five years...not a single one of those guys is a "leftist".

Antifa's death toll in that same period: 0 (unless you count the ones that got THEMSELVES killed in the process, lol)

Blame doesn't fix anything, it only serves our own egos. It's hard for me to see this as a strictly "left-wing" creation, considering the mainstream right has been floating "second amendment remedies" publicly (and loudly) for about a decade now.

Way to cherry-pick Antifa.

Was Chris Dorner a right-winger?

Micah Johnson?

Gavin Long?

The body count of those three alone far surpass your "sovereign citizens", who I don't believe were even brought up until you did. They are hardly mainstream right - they're certainly not working on GOP political campaigns.

 

[oldpink]

This is exactly what I'm talking about: you are attempting to "no true Scotsman" your way out of admitting valid examples of right-wing violence.

The sovereign movement is inherently anti-establishment, including "moorish science", which places it firmly in the right-wing. Leftists want more goverment (of their own politicians, of course), not less.

Trying to pretend "our side" doesn't do these things isn't helping anyone.

Oh, okay, you're taking the Mark Potok (Southern Poverty Law Center) stance that anyone who is anti-government is right-wing.
Allow me to facepalm over that belief as much as I did when I originally heard Potok claim that.

 

[Alpo]

Here I wuz officer, jes mindin my own bizness and these 2 black guys pull up outta nowhere and start shootin at me. Probly cuz I love Trump.

......


Let's just say that on any other month than June of 2017, I wouldn't find that theory believable.

Driver could have cut the Chevy off. Road rage.

Driver could have given the Chevy the stink eye.

Driver could be a rival drug dealer.

What I'm thinking is 2 things: 1) Thugs and 2) the right wing of our political process is whipping itself into a frenzy of fear. Since when did anyone start setting their hair on fire because of some pansy left wing lumbersexual?

Everyone needs to take a breath. The reason I carry today is no different than the reason I carried 4 years ago.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Oh, okay, you're taking the Mark Potok (Southern Poverty Law Center) stance that anyone who is anti-government is right-wing.
Allow me to facepalm over that belief as much as I did when I originally heard Potok claim that.

Should everyone that's pro-abortion, or anti-gun, or pro-welfare, or anti-1A... be considered left-wing?

Or even more simply... is everyone that's anti-capitalism left-wing?

 

[oldpink]

Korryn Gaines was clearly a right-wing slobbering ****izen.

 

[oldpink]

Should everyone that's pro-abortion, or anti-gun, or pro-welfare, or anti-1A... be considered left-wing?

Or even more simply... is everyone that's anti-capitalism left-wing?

*WHOOSH*

 

[SSGSAD]

Where can I get a MAGA flag?

^^^^^ THIS, I want one !!!!!

 

[ArcadiaGP]

*WHOOSH*

That's not an answer.

You seem to acknowledge gray areas with your post, so I want to see if you acknowledge them the other way, as well.

 

[SSGSAD]

Looks like it may be open season on DJT supporters/ Republicans/ conservatives !

Might want to self identify as a something else in an emergency!

NEVER, I don't back down, from ANYBODY !!!!!

 

[Alpo]

NEVER, I don't back down, from ANYBODY !!!!!

Not married, I see.

 

[SSGSAD]

Trump Flag 3x5ft Poly

THANKS !!!!!

 

[SSGSAD]

Not married, I see.

Not married .....

 

[OakRiver]

Should we expect the ACLU to bring suit claiming that shooting Republicans is free speech protected by the First Amendment?

Absolutely. But only once Hell has a skiing lodge.

In the way back machine, we were told not to get tats because they would identify us to our enemies. I often think the same of our vehicles. I know I have only found O stickered vehicles to be valid spittoons. I choose not to identify to the general populace.

A good explanation of the Grey Man Theory

 

[SSGSAD]

The thing is...

You can blame whomever you wish but we're all in it. That is this is now the state we all find ourselves in. So whether you arm yourself to your teeth the danger seems to be getting greater. So we can either find a way to turn the heat up increasingly higher or maybe we can find a way to turn it down just a tad bit lower.

I was taught DE escalation, is the first step .....

Then, it is their turn .....

What happens after that .....

well who knows .....

 

[PaulF]

Oh, okay, you're taking the Mark Potok (Southern Poverty Law Center) stance that anyone who is anti-government is right-wing.
Allow me to facepalm over that belief as much as I did when I originally heard Potok claim that.

What? Read what I wrote...actually read it this time.

I am absolutely not stating that.

I am stating that the sovereign citizen movement is an inherently right-wing movement, and that it has a documented history of violence.

I am saying the "pro-life" movement is inherently right-wing, and has a documented history of violence.

I am saying that leftists have (and do) commit violence, but they aren't the only group that does so.

It isn't the left or right that creates violence...it is the people that identify with those ideologies. There is nothing in the liberal platform that condones killing congressmen any more than there is in the conservative platform.

Saying "we don't do stuff like that" is not only disingenuous, it's counter-productive. Regardless how we have gotten here, we aren't going to see any improvement unless we work toward a viable solution. We aren't going to get there if all we have is disdain and blame.

 

[Expat]

You got that from my post?

I have written nothing justifying violence...from either "side".

Partizan virtue-signaling isn't going to fix this...not from anyone.

Sorry Paul. That wasn't directed at you. Just a reaction to the leftist comments I have been seeing on the internet and comments from them on the news shows. My head has been exploding from some of them.

 

[foszoe]

In this day and age, I wouldn't put it past someone to shoot their own truck....just sayin'