Somebody on Gunbroker is asking for trouble, ATF style!

[kevinj110]

True probably an ATF agent or someother .gov guy

 

[CountryBoy19]

So what would be the legallity on something like this. I know I always figured if ya had to ask and you feel its is illegal it probably is a good idea just to so with it being illegal. I am not wanting to buy one but if it is not made to put on a firearm then would it still be a silencer.

"The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication."

Pretty much, if it decreases the sound at all, and can possibly be attached to a firearm, it can be declared a silencer. If the ATF comes to your house and says the bottle full of coke in the fridge is a silencer, unfortunately, you're probably going to have to fight it out in court.

 

[kevman65]

Dixie, Washington isn't in the U.S.?

 

[Martin Draco]

Ebay Silencer

There are always some good mall ninja deals that are in the gray area on the web...like this silencer, cough, cough, I mean muzzle break.

Thanks for the link! You just saved me $200!
Dear ATF, That was just a joke!

 

[kevinj110]

Dixie, Washington isn't in the U.S.?

I can tell who didn't read what we are talking about. We are talking about the silencer on ebay that is made in Cyprus so no its not in the USA.

 

[combat45acp]

He must have some idea about the legality because he states that he ships the insides first and then the outer tube separately to "Avoid issues", or something similar. Scary situation for some innocent slob ordering one thinking they are legal.

That's to save on shipping cost/weight

 

[kevman65]

I can tell who didn't read what we are talking about. We are talking about the silencer on ebay that is made in Cyprus so no its not in the USA.

If you go back to the two posts mentioning seller outside of U.S. you'll see that "EBAY Silencer" was not mentioned in either of those. The way threads become disjointed and split off in myriad directions it is difficult at best to know which item one is talking about. So when in doubt, one goes back to the actual topic the thread was started on.

 

[combat45acp]

If you go back to the two posts mentioning seller outside of U.S. you'll see that "EBAY Silencer" was not mentioned in either of those. The way threads become disjointed and split off in myriad directions it is difficult at best to know which item one is talking about. So when in doubt, one goes back to the actual topic the thread was started on.

Sorry, didn't think that my post was going to "jack" the thread. Maybe I should have put, "better muzzle break" (on ebay) to replace fake can on ninja rifle on GB!

 

[Panama]

*UPDATE*

Got a reply from the "Lady" seller on gunbroker.com, I think she was YELLING at me?

She said it is "WELDED" and it is like a "BUTT STOCK FOR GLOCK!"

Alrighty then, now I understand completely

Here is her reply;

Linda Holbrook
Subject: RE: Question regarding GunBroker.com Item 223706896

IT IS A CHARGER 10/22 THE SUPPRESSER IS FAKED WELDED, IT IS LIKE BUTT STOCK
FOR A GLOCK!

 

[revsaxon]

*UPDATE*
IT IS A CHARGER 10/22 THE SUPPRESSER IS FAKED WELDED, IT IS LIKE BUTT STOCK
FOR A GLOCK!

A butt stock for a glock is illegal too though.... (assuming its not a sbr that is...)

 

[Panama]

A butt stock for a glock is illegal too though.... (assuming its not a sbr that is...)

Yep, I know that, and you know that, but I don't think she, knows that

Wonder if she knows this;

(M8) What can happen to someone who has an NFA firearm which is not registered to him?
Violators may be fined not more than $250,000, and imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. In addition, any vessel, vehicle or aircraft used to transport, conceal or possess an unregistered NFA firearm is subject to seizure and forfeiture, as is the weapon itself.
[49 U.S.C. 781-788, 26 U.S.C. 5861 and 5872]

 

[printcraft]

So, what's the food like in womens federal prison?

I hear the tacos they serve are horrible.

 

[Clay]

Jesus... thats like crazy illegal.... I pitty anyone that buys that...

its perfectly legal on an air rifle, and yes people put suppressors on air rifles.

 

[combat45acp]

Silencer Definition BATF

Paintball and Airgun Silencers

Whoever buys this "muzzle break" on ebay and gets caught, their done.

 

[combat45acp]

Silencer Definition BATF

Paintball and Airgun Silencers

Whoever buys this "muzzle break" on ebay and gets caught, their done.

Plus dudes video on his webpage says to use it on a .22

BATF would have a field day with this one.

 

[Clay]

key word: AIR RIFLE

they make air rifles in all the calibers listed on that ebay page.

You can put them on an air rifle as long as you adhere to the ATF requirements.

 

[ssgjason]

its perfectly legal on an air rifle, and yes people put suppressors on air rifles.

I believe there is some case law on this.
An individual was making supressors for airsoft and the ATF went after him. He was cleared after a costly battle.

 

[gunman41mag]

So, what's the food like in womens federal prison?

I hear the tacos they serve are horrible.

I thought women prison had the best tacos

 

[combat45acp]

key word: AIR RIFLE

they make air rifles in all the calibers listed on that ebay page.

You can put them on an air rifle as long as you adhere to the ATF requirements.

That is a silencer any way you slice it. Weather you claim to put it on a air rifle, air gun, and or a .22.

"any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm"

"Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by ATF’s Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be, by nature of their design and function, firearm silencers"

 

[Clay]

there are provisions in place for using the device on an air rifle or 1/2 the people on air rifle forums would be in jail.