Spartanburg Leo Interaction "Shoot Me Like Michael Brown

[steveh_131]

I second this motion.

All in favor?

Well, my only complaint is all the regular folks this would affect.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Well, my only complaint is all the regular folks this would affect.

They're probably not allowed past the gates.

 

[rambone]

How can anyone watch this and think something positive took place?

 

[Ruffnek]

Taze his ass and be done.Am I the only one who noticed how easy it was for him to rock that whole car?

 

[steveh_131]

How can anyone watch this and think something positive took place?

Why do you hate America so much?

 

[BiscuitNaBasket]

How can anyone watch this and think something positive took place?

Why do you hate America so much?

 

[ModernGunner]

Way to go driver!

Way to turn a minor stop into a big mess for yourself as you (driver) said "for no reason".

 

[hornadylnl]

What's the context? Was the driver having a bad day and stressed out? Was he running late to his mother's funeral and upset that he was being made even later?

 

[Expat]

For someone fearful of being shot down like Michael Brown, he is working very hard to cause a conflict.

 

[jamil]

For someone fearful of being shot down like Michael Brown, he is working very hard to cause a conflict.

The officer wasn't all that skillful at managing conflict. A few well place words from the start might have set the whole conversation on a different tone. Instead, essentially starting the conversation out with "YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORETAY!" only helped escalate things.

 

[steveh_131]

The officer wasn't all that skillful at managing conflict. A few well place words from the start might have set the whole conversation on a different tone. Instead, essentially starting the conversation out with "YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORETAY!" only helped escalate things.

Are you telling me that beginning an interaction with a complete stranger (who was totally minding his own business) by yelling "GET BACK IN THE CAR! THAT'S AN ORDER! GETBACKINTHECARGETBACKINTHECARGETBACKINTHECAR!" might not have been a great way to handle this?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The officer wasn't all that skillful at managing conflict. A few well place words from the start might have set the whole conversation on a different tone. Instead, essentially starting the conversation out with "YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORETAY!" only helped escalate things.

Are you telling me that beginning an interaction with a complete stranger (who was totally minding his own business) by yelling "GET BACK IN THE CAR! THAT'S AN ORDER! GETBACKINTHECARGETBACKINTHECARGETBACKINTHECAR!" might not have been a great way to handle this?

I'm pretty sure, judging by the driver's initial actions, there are no combination of syllables that would have changed the driver's mood and behavior. To Expat's point, I don't think he was afraid of getting shot, he was a foot or more taller than that cop and more than a match for him, physically. He wanted to prove a point (of some kind) and now he'll get to do it in front of a judge.

 

[phylodog]

Are you telling me that beginning an interaction with a complete stranger (who was totally minding his own business) by yelling "GET BACK IN THE CAR! THAT'S AN ORDER! GETBACKINTHECARGETBACKINTHECARGETBACKINTHECAR!" might not have been a great way to handle this?

Of course not, jumping out of your car as soon as you are pulled over for a legitimate violation of the law and being an ass definitely was though.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

We really need a traffic school. The damage Boston T. Party's moronic advice about jumping out of the car has caused havoc in the gun culture.

How can anyone watch this and think something positive took place?

Something positive? Who said anything positive transpired?

The moron driver was arrested and faces a misdemeanor conviction and a potential negative impact to his parental rights.

That's like shooting yourself in the foot and hoping something good happens. He pulled the trigger, it is all negative but by his hand.

 

[Loco179]

I will have to say this officer treated this guy with respect. He asked him very nicely to get back in the car. The guy right away refused to listen. Then the officer could have by law used all types of force. He did not and tried not to do anything in front of the guys son. I am positive the officer would have had a good interaction with this man. The man was not injured. The man has a responsibility to his son to act like a adult. If you notice the slamming of his hands on the car. That is an aggressive action, that should get a response from the police officer. It does not even though the officer has mace and a tazer. Anyway very well done by the officer.

 

[BogWalker]

Are seat belt laws a load of crap? Perhaps, but that's beside the point. The issue at hand is the man getting out of his car. Sorry, but that's a huge no-no. More than once when that's happened we've ended up with a cop shot to death. Cops tend to not want shot to death, so the policy is stay in your car and wait for the officer. If he had done that this probably would have ended with a warning.

Causing a commotion with the police will not undermine bad laws. They'll just make other bad laws stronger. Good on the cop for handling this without injuring the idiot.

I challenge those INGOers who side with the driver, next time you're stopped jump out of your car. Come back and report to us what happens.

 

[88GT]

What's the context? Was the driver having a bad day and stressed out? Was he running late to his mother's funeral and upset that he was being made even later?

Maybe he'd seen an infant killed in a drive-by in his neighborhood.

The officer wasn't all that skillful at managing conflict. A few well place words from the start might have set the whole conversation on a different tone. Instead, essentially starting the conversation out with "YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORETAY!" only helped escalate things.

Neither side was in the right. This is a perfect example of the idiocy of "give me respect first" argument.

 

[Ruffnek]

I challenge those INGOers who side with the driver, next time you're stopped jump out of your car. Come back and report to us what happens.

You also have to scream "Shoot me down like Mike Brown!" Maybe even throw your hands in the air and yell "Hands up,don't shoot!"

 

[hornadylnl]

Driver should have never exited the vehicle unless instructed to. The cop who pulled him over was very reserved in the amount of force he exerted against him. The state has approved of far more violence against citizens who posed less threat than this driver. If the driver wanted to, he put dropped that cop like a sack of potatoes.


The driver was in the wrong... unless there's something we couldn't see off camera. Was another officer throwing **** on the driver? Did the driver's wife run off with a cop, hence the anger against all police? I don't have enough information to make a judgement call.

 

[JRPLANE]

What's the context? Was the driver having a bad day and stressed out? Was he running late to his mother's funeral and upset that he was being made even later?

Maybe the driver could be put on pay administrative leave