Suicide by Cop on Film

[g00n24]

It's just too bad in situations like this when the gun ends up being a replica or toy. I know a lot of these look very realistic, though. Time permitting, do the police procedures call for use of aided vision (binoculars, rifle scope, etc.) to positively identify the gun as real? I know telephoto lenses foreshorten objects seen through them and it makes the officer behind the car door look like he's point blank on the woman as she pulls the toy gun, which makes it look like he's close enough to ID the gun as real or not. Did she paint it or remove the orange tip? Was it a BB or pellet gun?

EDIT: NOT BLAMING THE COPS HERE.

I just don't see how that would be feasible in a situation like this. With the gun constantly moving around there would just not be a way to tell for sure, and I sure wouldn't want to be the officer who says he's sure it's a toy and gets his buddies shot.

 

[HoughMade]

Purple?

We are overdependent on purple.

 

[chezuki]

We are overdependent on purple.

Agreed.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

We are overdependent on purple.

Are we?

 

[j706]

When it is all said and done, anyone the presents a gun when guns are already pointed at them (by anyone) is just asking to be shot. While it may be sad and tragic it is still kinda hard to feel much sympathy for that person. It sounds like this gal got lucky.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-shot-long-beach-calif-cops-article-1.1520514

 

[VUPDblue]

I missed any verbal commands the cops gave. Did they give her verbal commands? Not that it matters, just checking.

 

[N8RV]

Everybody is sticking up for the cops. I wouldn't rush to their defense so quickly ... after all, this happened in California where she couldn't possibly have been carrying a real gun.

 

[Denny347]

I missed any verbal commands the cops gave. Did they give her verbal commands? Not that it matters, just checking.

It looked like that video was from inside a building...behind glass. I thought I could hear a PA but it was hard to tell.

 

[nakinate]

I had never seen someone shot to death before I joined INGO. I've seen at least 3 videos since May. Take it FWIW.

 

[j706]

It looked like that video was from inside a building...behind glass. I thought I could hear a PA but it was hard to tell.

Yea I am pretty sure I can hear someone giving commands on a PA or something.

 

[HoughMade]

I had never seen someone shot to death before I joined INGO. I've seen at least 3 videos since May. Take it FWIW.

I've quit shooting people since I've been here, so overall, I'd say INGO is in the "plus" column.

 

[Trigger Time]

In California even that toy gun was probably illegal. I know that's not why she got shot. Just sayin

 

[Trigger Time]

Don't get me wrong, play stupid games/win stupid prizes. Sometimes you can't help but wonder if some of these guys get off on this stuff?!

Some I'm sure do and I'm sure there were some high fives given. Honestly I don't care. Some people live to go to war. As long as it's justified and necessary I don't care. To each their own.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Seems to me they (one of the 30 officers there) could have bean bagged her a$$) and she would have went down without a fight, don't really see the point of shooting her 40 times or continuing to fire as she is going down/is down...

Don't get me wrong, play stupid games/win stupid prizes. Sometimes you can't help but wonder if some of these guys get off on this stuff?!

Right now I am reading "On Combat" by Grossman. If you are interested in learning about the "don't really see the point of shooting her 40 times", I really suggest reading this book. He doesn't defend the practice, rather looks into the psychology/physiology that can result in it. If you watch, the shooting all happens within 3 or 4 seconds. That's pretty quick, not much time for someone who's heart is racing trying to stop some stranger from killing some friend to decide she's been shot enough. According to Grossman, it's quite possible that no shooter realized anyone else was shooting.

I really suggest "On Combat". It is an eye opener for me, changes the way I see things like this, changes the way I view mass shootings and the conflicting reports immediately following the shootings.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I had never seen someone shot to death before I joined INGO. I've seen at least 3 videos since May. Take it FWIW.

Its much more shocking to see it in person.

 

[lucky4034]

Some I'm sure do and I'm sure there were some high fives given. Honestly I don't care. Some people live to go to war. As long as it's justified and necessary I don't care. To each their own.

True dat... If I was that cop, I would have shot her and then went and got some Carne Asada Fries for lunch. Its the one thing I miss about that state... (that and all of the exotic and in shape women)

 

[in625shooter]

I'm calling this. With those pajama pants that wasn't California. That had to have happened right here in Indiana!!!

 

[Trigger Time]

True dat... If I was that cop, I would have shot her and then went and got some Carne Asada Fries for lunch. Its the one thing I miss about that state... (that and all of the exotic and in shape women)

one of those pics looks YUMMY! I'll let you guess which one

 

[SMiller]

Anyone else notice the magwell is empty?

NOT that a weapon cannot be fired without a mag, just noticed.

Thanks for the info on using non lethal.

 

[nakinate]

Its much more shocking to see it in person.

I'll take your word on that. I hope I never have to find out.