Tell me, is the Pope a thief?

[Kutnupe14]

Here's the Pope's miracle

I lol'd

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Here's the Pope's miracle

If you see it on the internet, it's true........right?

That looks pretty good.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

With Gay Vatican Priest Firing, Time To Finally Understand Francis' 'Who Am I To Judge?'

 

[Jludo]

The Pope himself seems pretty alright but an organization as a whole it's hard to get behind. I don't think that's the Church Jesus had in mind. Extremely wealthy, extravagant, secretive, powerful etc. But I suppose we would never hear about a church that meets in a warehouse and spends all its money on the people it's trying to help.

 

[JettaKnight]

The Pope himself seems pretty alright but an organization as a whole it's hard to get behind. I don't think that's the Church Jesus had in mind. Extremely wealthy, extravagant, secretive, powerful etc. But I suppose we would never hear about a church that meets in a warehouse and spends all its money on the people it's trying to help.

And that's the way it should be. Store up your treasures in Heaven...

 

[Mmccalip]

I am new to INGO and this thread is the first one I've read. I am Catholic and it's disheartening to me to see that this site has so much anti-Catholic rhetoric on it. If y'all don't like the Pope, turn off your TV.

I have been to thousands of Catholic masses and I've never heard one priest, deacon, or bishop say anything negative about any other faith or it's leadership. I don't understand the hatred towards Catholicism.

 

[Dead Duck]

I am new to INGO and this thread is the first one I've read. I am Catholic and it's disheartening to me to see that this site has so much anti-Catholic rhetoric on it. If y'all don't like the Pope, turn off your TV.

I have been to thousands of Catholic masses and I've never heard one priest, deacon, or bishop say anything negative about any other faith or it's leadership. I don't understand the hatred towards Catholicism.

Welcome to INGO.

And...

Welcome to INGO.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I am new to INGO and this thread is the first one I've read. I am Catholic and it's disheartening to me to see that this site has so much anti-Catholic rhetoric on it. If y'all don't like the Pope, turn off your TV.

I have been to thousands of Catholic masses and I've never heard one priest, deacon, or bishop say anything negative about any other faith or it's leadership. I don't understand the hatred towards Catholicism.

Welcome to INGO.

And...

Welcome to INGO.

He's been a member longer than either of us.

Mmcc, you'll find there's all sorts of opinions here. Some folks hate anything having to do with religion, any religion. Others are deeply faithful and others are somewhere in between.

 

[Mmccalip]

Thanks Dead Duck!

I hopped on the site to talk guns, optics, ammo and not theology...

 

[Dead Duck]

Thanks Dead Duck!

I hopped on the site to talk guns, optics, ammo and not theology...

Well, you could always talk about both.

Like WWJC

 

[Hohn]

I'm not catholic.

The man himself, I believe is sincere. He has lived a pious life and has kept his perspective.

The "office" of Pope confuses me. Is he a religious leader? Is he a head of state? Can he be both? Should he be both?

Sincerity is the most overvalued attribute ever. There is such a thing as being sincerely wrong. Or sincerely evil. Does one not believe that Hitler sincerely believed in a master race? Or that Stalin sincerely believed the killing of millions was best for his interests?

I assume someone is sincerely. What I care about is are they sincerely right or sincerely wrong? That's what matters.

I'm thankful to see a Pope advocate personal charity and to model the behaviors he wishes others did. The Golden Rule is the best of all.

But this pope appears not to be content with that. Rather than advocate for virtue, he attacks capitalism because it allows people without virtue as well as those with it. He buys into the AGW scam-- proving that he neither knows his place as a *RELIGIOUS* leader, nor much about science in general.

Personally, I think there was something of a Coup in the Vatican and that's how we can Francis. Was it not strange having a previous Pope resign rather than die?


The Catholic Church has gone all in on social justice and do-gooder Statism. It doesn't see, apparently, how a road paved with good intentions could lead anywhere other than to goodness.

 

[JettaKnight]

I am new to INGO and this thread is the first one I've read. I am Catholic and it's disheartening to me to see that this site has so much anti-Catholic rhetoric on it. If y'all don't like the Pope, turn off your TV.

"Anti-Catholic rhetoric" has been going on for some 500+ years. The one positive thing is there's no longer any literal holy wars complete with beheading. Hatred is a bit strong - I'd say a strong disagreement. Some of us like discussing this stuff.

The trick is to speak the Truth in love. I'm not attacking anyone here personally, but I am amendment in disagreements with many dogmas of the Catholic church. And honestly, I'm learning way more from others. Isn't that what dialog is about?

I have been to thousands of Catholic masses and I've never heard one priest, deacon, or bishop say anything negative about any other faith or it's leadership. I don't understand the hatred towards Catholicism.

That's kind of sad if it's true. Either (A) the topic of Hinduism, Islam, Mormonism, etc. has never come up of (B) it has and the other religion(s) was deemed to be a perfectly acceptable path to God.


And how is this the first thread you've read if you've been a member for four years?

 

[rambone]

Ecumenism

That's kind of sad if it's true. Either (A) the topic of Hinduism, Islam, Mormonism, etc. has never come up of (B) it has and the other religion(s) was deemed to be a perfectly acceptable path to God.

Well, this issue goes straight to the the top. The pope has been hosting interfaith prayer rituals with non-Christians for decades. One would think that Catholics could recognize that worshiping with pagans is utterly and unmistakably condemned all over the bible, but we see how flexible some can be when it comes to the scriptures.

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

"Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son." 1 John 2:22

"As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:9

"Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters." Luke 11:23

"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." Ephesians 5:11

"Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." James 4:4

"Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry." 1 Corinthians 10:14

"For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14


...and if you think those verses are blunt, check out God's reactions to this in the Old Testament.

 

[HoughMade]

The building of "high places" is not new. Always deplorable, but not new.

 

[Dead Duck]

Well, this issue goes straight to the the top. The pope has been holding interfaith prayer sessions with [STRIKE]non-Christians[/STRIKE] non-Catholics for decades.

FIFY

You can't just bunch Christians in with Catholics.

 

[Jludo]

Well, this issue goes straight to the the top. The pope has been hosting interfaith prayer rituals with non-Christians for decades. One would think that Catholics could recognize that worshiping with pagans is utterly and unmistakably condemned all over the bible, but we see how flexible some can be when it comes to the scriptures.

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

"Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son." 1 John 2:22

"As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:9

"Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters." Luke 11:23

"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." Ephesians 5:11

"Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." James 4:4

"Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry." 1 Corinthians 10:14

"For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14


...and if you think those verses are blunt, check out God's reactions to this in the Old Testament.

And to think, God's looking down at that picture thinking, " insert correct religious leader You really nailed it, Can't believe the rest of these idiots think they stumbled upon the one true religion, clearly being born in insert region of the world to parents of insert faith is the one and only path to Heaven/Nirvana/Moksha/Summerland/paradise etc."

And if you're religious all you have to do is fill in the correct religion, then you can't be offended.

Also I second the notion that Catholicism and the different sects of Protestantism are very different from one another and should be treated as such.

 

[T.Lex]

And yet, not a single spaghetti monster in the bunch.

 

[JettaKnight]

And yet, not a single spaghetti monster in the bunch.

I thought the girl in the houndstooth skirt represented the FSM fanatics.

 

[T.Lex]

I thought the girl in the houndstooth skirt represented the FSM fanatics.

Wait. I thought she was British. Maybe you're right.

 

[HoughMade]

And to think, God's looking down at that picture thinking, " insert correct religious leader You really nailed it, Can't believe the rest of these idiots think they stumbled upon the one true religion, clearly being born in insert region of the world to parents of insert faith is the one and only path to Heaven/Nirvana/Moksha/Summerland/paradise etc."...

If only there were some way we could be clued into God's thinking rather than inserting our own biases and assuming that's how God operates.

...and the sole determining factors for religion is where you're born and what your parents followed? O................K