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The 45-70 Government is still relevant
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Seconded on what Leadeye posted.
This is one of the more expensive factory loads, enough so that you'll realize the cost savings to justify your initial investment in a reloading setup (if you don't already have one) more rapidly than you will with most other types of loads.
Of course, if you already have a reloading setup, you'll only need dies and a shell holder, then a supply of .45-70 brass and .458 diameter bullets, and possibly powder and primers if your existing stocks of powder/primers are not suitable for .45-70 loading.
On top of that, there is a separate category of loading data in the manuals that you can use if you want to see the much greater potential this cartridge has than it has with most factory loads if your .45-70 rifle is one of the following: Marlin 1895, Winchester 1886, Ruger No. 1, Winchester 1885 High Wall, or the Siamese Mauser.
Of course, you can just use the standard data in any of those rifles, but the extra power data is available for anyone who might need it, especially for shutting down a Grizzly bear charge!
This is one of the more expensive factory loads, enough so that you'll realize the cost savings to justify your initial investment in a reloading setup (if you don't already have one) more rapidly than you will with most other types of loads.
Of course, if you already have a reloading setup, you'll only need dies and a shell holder, then a supply of .45-70 brass and .458 diameter bullets, and possibly powder and primers if your existing stocks of powder/primers are not suitable for .45-70 loading.
On top of that, there is a separate category of loading data in the manuals that you can use if you want to see the much greater potential this cartridge has than it has with most factory loads if your .45-70 rifle is one of the following: Marlin 1895, Winchester 1886, Ruger No. 1, Winchester 1885 High Wall, or the Siamese Mauser.
Of course, you can just use the standard data in any of those rifles, but the extra power data is available for anyone who might need it, especially for shutting down a Grizzly bear charge!
Just be advised that 45-70 is not legal for deer hunting in Indiana, unless the cases have been shortened to 1.800" and custom handloads made for that case length.
Factory loaded .45-70govt is perfectly legal for hunting deer in Indiana in a pistol configuration.
AmmoManAaron
Master
Greenfield actually, easy to mix up, I had to look it up myself to be sure! In fact, when I was looking them up, I discovered that they were made in Evansville, Greenfield, and most recently Knightstown. More info here: Blue Book of Gun Values - CENTURY MFG., INC.
A friend owned one for a short time, but he sold it before I got a chance to shoot it!
Does anyone have info on the short 45-70? Specifically, how to shorten the case to 1.8" that the average reloader can perform to create a few rounds to hunt with. I have a Marlin 1895 circa 1972 w/microgroove rifling so cast bullets are not a good option. I do not want to modify the Marlin to function (cycle) only the 1.8" cartridge. Accordingly, I have procured a quantity of Speer 450gr .458 SPFN bullets with a cannelure that will accommodate seating the bullet out to close to regular 45-70 COAL which should allow the short case to cycle in the unmodified Marlin. Any info or comments would be greatly appreciated.
https://fox59.com/2018/08/27/aggres...-in-northern-indiana-police-department-warns/
I took great delight in pointing out to the wife how glad she should be that I have the 45-70 when this happened. What if a wild angry bison came along when the grandkids were here. Papaw would have to shoot it with the 45-70.
I took great delight in pointing out to the wife how glad she should be that I have the 45-70 when this happened. What if a wild angry bison came along when the grandkids were here. Papaw would have to shoot it with the 45-70.
JeepHammer
SHOOTER
I wasn't aware there was a 'Movement' to get rid of .45-70....?
Good knock down power, cartridges in all kinds of weights & types, several dead blow hammer reliable formats to send the rounds through still available...
Shoots home cast lead like a champ, common primers & propellants, reloads great,
What's not to like?
Good knock down power, cartridges in all kinds of weights & types, several dead blow hammer reliable formats to send the rounds through still available...
Shoots home cast lead like a champ, common primers & propellants, reloads great,
What's not to like?
