The chickens are coming home to roost

[KellyinAvon]

I want to be surprised by retirements of officers with "only" 20 years on, but I'm not.

When it's time to walk away, it's time to walk away.

 

[miguel]

One time, when he was younger, Miguel Jr. asked about what LEO's were paid. I told him it depended on a number of factors including agency, geography, seniority, etc.

I followed up with a friend who is a Federal officer letting him know my boy expressed an interest in learning more about his profession. He immediately said, "Tell him not to!" It was sad to hear a great guy like my friend tell me stories that led him to this POV.

It is sad that what should be seen as a noble and rewarding profession basically losing cultural respect (compared to say, 40-50 years ago) and have some of its own members not recommend it for young people.

 

[jsharmon7]

I’m not quite ready to join the doom n’ gloom crowd, but things are changing. We don’t see the numbers for recruiting like we used to, and that seems to be every department. Any time the pool is smaller, there is a potential for quality to suffer. I hope it’s just a dip in the regular ebb and flow, but we will see. The last few people we have hired were younger guys and they seem like solid people so far.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

When it's time to walk away, it's time to walk away.

As of 01/04/19 I have 20 years in my pension. I "could" retire right now but I can't draw my pension for 8 more years (age 52). So unless I find a job that pays as much or more as what I'm making now, I'm not retiring any time soon.

 

[KellyinAvon]

As of 01/04/19 I have 20 years in my pension. I "could" retire right now but I can't draw my pension for 8 more years (age 52). So unless I find a job that pays as much or more as what I'm making now, I'm not retiring any time soon.

Cliff-vesting AND age restrictions on collecting. That sounds like National Guard/Reserve. 52 sneaks up before you know it.

 

[Expat]

52 sneaks up before you know it.

Aint that the fricking truth...

 

[Hohn]

I thought staffing was low because of politicians trying to cut costs so they can blow the money somewhere else.

That too, I'm sure. But Phylo is on the money here. You can't expect people to go into any "unlimited liability" career (military, fire, LEO, etc) when a big part of the appeal-- the nobility, the sacrifice, the honor-- is soiled and besmirched and no longer honorable.

 

[MarkC]

Now I'm confused... Should I comment on how glad I am to be retired, or about the tasty cooking ideas upthread?

 

[jagee]

Frankenstein never scared me

 

[T.Lex]

Another officer was shot in California.

Truly, I have no idea why people would want to be LEOs in California. They just aren't valued, at least from what I can tell.

I'm personally familiar with an officer who was shot and killed in the line of duty in 2005 in the Oakland area, shooter sentenced to death, and the first appeal isn't even over yet.

I'm sure my over-generalization is probably unfair to some people in Cali, but... I just don't get it.

 

[MarkC]

Another officer was shot in California.

Truly, I have no idea why people would want to be LEOs in California. They just aren't valued, at least from what I can tell.

I'm personally familiar with an officer who was shot and killed in the line of duty in 2005 in the Oakland area, shooter sentenced to death, and the first appeal isn't even over yet.

I'm sure my over-generalization is probably unfair to some people in Cali, but... I just don't get it.

The key point: unfair to some people. This is how the majority there apparently want to live. I suspect California is like Illinois, where there are many moderate or conservative people living in the majority of the state, but their voices are drowned out by the Chicago/St. Louis area voting population.

 

[HoughMade]

People seemed to like these California officers:

 

[Hohn]

The key point: unfair to some people. This is how the majority there apparently want to live. I suspect California is like Illinois, where there are many moderate or conservative people living in the majority of the state, but their voices are drowned out by the Chicago/St. Louis area voting population.

Yes, if you live outside LA or the Bay Area, you are getting screwed and your vote doesn't count.

 

[chezuki]

Frankenstein never scared me

Marsupials do... cause they’re fast.

 

[MarkC]

People seemed to like these California officers:

From 1968 to 1975 they did, I'm not sure they've really liked anyone since.

 

[Kutnupe14]

As of 01/04/19 I have 20 years in my pension. I "could" retire right now but I can't draw my pension for 8 more years (age 52). So unless I find a job that pays as much or more as what I'm making now, I'm not retiring any time soon.

Theyre trying to get it down to 50.

 

[HoughMade]

From 1968 to 1975 they did, I'm not sure they've really liked anyone since.

Good point.


Wait

 

[MarkC]

Good point.


Wait

Good point... but those guys were only on until 1983, so not too much sooner.

I always wondered how Ponch kept his hair so pretty after riding around in a helmet all day in the California sun?

 

[Doug]

There is a conservative presence in California; I spoke with him, once.
He told me the legislature is secretly considering a wall at the border to keep taxpayers in the state.

 

[MarkC]

There is a conservative presence in California; I spoke with him, once.
He told me the legislature is secretly considering a wall at the border to keep taxpayers in the state.

Would it look like this?