The Harvey Weinstein Effect

[Ingomike]

I rarely complement a woman now. Just an innocuous little complement can be misconstrued as flirting or worse. Complements are reserved almost exclusively for my lovely wife...

In fact I now engage women differently, for example I might encourage about any man that lost a loved one with a back pat or shoulder touch in the right circumstances. Not touching a woman other than my wife and maybe friends as close as family.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Weinstein’s lawyer Donna Rotunno on #MeToo: “I feel that women may rue the day that all of this started when no one asks them out on a date, and no one holds the door open for them, and no one tells them that they look nice. The pendulum is swinging so far in the overly sensitive direction that men can’t really be men, and women can’t really be women.”

She's not wrong.

What a crock of crap! None of this has anyplace in the workplace, it's not a meet-market.

If you can't keep your **** in your pants at work, you should be sent packing because you (the general "you", not the specific you) are a moron... doubly so if you're in a position of power over womens' careers because you're a douch and a pathetic looser as well.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

I rarely complement a woman now. Just an innocuous little complement can be misconstrued as flirting or worse. Complements are reserved almost exclusively for my lovely wife...

In fact I now engage women differently, for example I might encourage about any man that lost a loved one with a back pat or shoulder touch in the right circumstances. Not touching a woman other than my wife and maybe friends as close as family.

Mike, if you're talking about the workplace, then IMO, that's appropriate.

If you're talking about non-work, then I think you take things a little too far, though "overly" flattering a non-wife, as opposed to noticing a totally different hair style, for example, has always been thin ice.

 

[HoughMade]

The show biz industry is not like any other workplace. It's not like producers and actresses punch a clock and have a fixed place to ply their trade. Every lunch, dinner, party, or interaction of any kind is potentially related to your profession.

This is not a defense of anyone, but I'm having a hard time believing that everyone who encountered Harvey was an unwilling participant or didn't look at it as a way to move forward in their career...which in my mind looks a lot like consent. Same for Coz. I don't know about any individual case that has been criminally charged, but what I have heard about the bigger names it all seems disgustingly complicit.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

The show biz industry is not like any other workplace. It's not like producers and actresses punch a clock and have a fixed place to ply their trade. Every lunch, dinner, party, or interaction of any kind is potentially related to your profession.

This is not a defense of anyone, but I'm having a hard time believing that everyone who encountered Harvey was an unwilling participant or didn't look at it as a way to move forward in their career...which in my mind looks a lot like consent. Same for Coz. I don't know about any individual case that has been criminally charged, but what I have heard about the bigger names it all seems disgustingly complicit.

Hough, no disagreement here... there are always some people, men and women, willing to use any asset at their disposal to get where they want to be, even if it literally means prostituting themselves to do so.

I didn't follow your tie-in with Cosby? Were you referring to people who aided and abetted by knowingly giving him access to his victims? Or that some consented to being coma-raped? I'm genuinely confused - perhaps it's just my coffee hasn't kicked in yet...

 

[jamil]

Right. What she's saying in that quote, while true, is unrelated to the accusations against Weinstein... and really not a defense.

That seems to be the defense she's going with though. That this "sisterhood" of #metoo has made her client the scapegoat for the movement. It's not gonna work. But is probably about the only defense she can make.

 

[Leadeye]

I asked my son about all this as he's in the film business. He said Harvey will be back on his feet in no time because he's an earner, and the power of the movie business never gives up on an earner.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

???

FYI, he deleted and re-created this tweet 4 times. Coordinating with wife, I believe.

 

[HoughMade]

yeah, but what does Webster have to say. He must be in his 40s now.

 

[actaeon277]

???

FYI, he deleted and re-created this tweet 4 times. Coordinating with wife, I believe.

What allegations?
Pretend some of us aren't on twitter.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

What allegations?
Pretend some of us aren't on twitter.

Honestly don't know.

I see "allegations", I assume "MeToo"

 

[BugI02]

???

FYI, he deleted and re-created this tweet 4 times. Coordinating with wife, I believe.

What allegations?

Pretend some of us aren't on twitter.

Honestly don't know.

I see "allegations", I assume "MeToo"

Seems to have something to do with George's Mom(?) saying his wife is a gold digger and has him *****-whipped

Throw it at a thread, see if it sticks?

 

[Libertarian01]

Harvey Weinstein found guilty!

https://apnews.com/67057b46fcd3f1183cf6a699a399c886

His lawyers say they will be appealing the verdict.

Doug

 

[historian]

Guilty of the lesser crimes. Got acquitted on the more serious ones.

 

[Libertarian01]

Guilty of the lesser crimes. Got acquitted on the more serious ones.

True. I did not clarify this. Thank you.

Doug

 

[ultra...good]

Faces up to 29 years and was taken into custody. He is done for.
They can appeal all they want. His life is basically over.

And..... he is still facing charges in CA for the same thing.

 

[KittySlayer]

I don't think he will find the Casting Couch in prison as pleasurable as the one in Hollywood.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Weinstein hospitalized with chest pains on his way to prison... I bet he is!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ital-way-rikers-island-jail-new-york-n1142236

 

[jamil]

Weinstein hospitalized with chest pains on his way to prison... I bet he is!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ital-way-rikers-island-jail-new-york-n1142236

Will he commit suicide? Does he have any dirt on the Clintons?

 

[KellyinAvon]

Will he commit suicide? Does he have any dirt on the Clintons?

He looks like a good candidate for a heart attack while in jail. You know, like Jim McDougall.