The Move Is On To Regulate Printed Guns

[mrjarrell]

This will make Kirk sad. A new version of a printable gun comes out, (The Liberator) and there's already a move on to stop the technology in political circles. Probably afraid people might sneak them into the capitol and do in the criminals in charge of this country. The genie is out of the bottle and it won't be stoppered again, no matter how much scared politicians might like to seal it back up.

This Is The World's First Entirely 3D-Printed Gun (Photos) - Forbes

 

[dhnorris]

That's it, it's over, after all the wars on poverty, drugs and terrorism have completely eliminated those bane's on society

 

[shibumiseeker]

That's it, it's over, after all the wars on poverty, drugs and terrorism have completely eliminated those bane's on society

Worse. Once legislation like this passes and the JBTs get authority to enforce it, simply owning equipment to do this type of printing will become probable cause to search your house and computers, confiscate the equipment, any cash they find, and probably shoot your dog.

I know it sound far-fetched, but it was happening a lot in the 80s and 90s until they scared people who convert machine guns illegally deep into the woodwork.

 

[Kutnupe14]

There's no genie. Printed firearms will never be as accessible as what people will want. The govt and firearm companies (the latter with some serious weight behind it) will completely kill it. Seriously, "who" do you think has more to lose from printed weapons, the govt or a private business with an army of lobbyists?

 

[geronimojoe85]

So what happens to every swinging Richard with a milling machine that can pop out an AR receiver?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

This makes Kirk happy! That's why Kirk posted the article immediately after it was up.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...292566-3_d_printed_liberator_is_here_now.html

Let them plow the sea and chase their tales with regulating the air.

Tens upon tens of millions of illegal aliens walking the streets. Terrorists invited in to the country. Hundreds of tons of drugs flow across the border.

However, .gov is going to stop someone from printing a 1911 or PPS in their basement?

 

[jwh20]

This will make Kirk sad. A new version of a printable gun comes out, (The Liberator) and there's already a move on to stop the technology in political circles. Probably afraid people might sneak them into the capitol and do in the criminals in charge of this country. The genie is out of the bottle and it won't be stoppered again, no matter how much scared politicians might like to seal it back up.

This Is The World's First Entirely 3D-Printed Gun (Photos) - Forbes

I am fascinated with the "fear and trembling" that the mass-media and many politicians have with respect to this so-called threat of an undetectable firearm. So even if this is technically possible now (I'm not so sure) or in the future (probably will be someday) this is not, IMHO, something to be feared.

Unfortunately there are any number of terribly deadly things that could be carried past an airport or other metal detector that are much more concerning than a "plastic" firearm. I don't need to recite a list of what might be possible here, just use your imagination.

Is a plastic gun that someone might "print" really such a terrible security threat? Hardly! I think of some of the most horrific acts that have been committed in years past and none of the worst involved firearms of any kind.

 

[downzero]

This makes Kirk happy! That's why Kirk posted the article immediately after it was up.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...292566-3_d_printed_liberator_is_here_now.html

Let them plow the sea and chase their tales with regulating the air.

Tens upon tens of millions of illegal aliens walking the streets. Terrorists invited in to the country. Hundreds of tons of drugs flow across the border.

However, .gov is going to stop someone from printing a 1911 or PPS in their basement?

Read my mind. Threat of enforcement != actual regulation.

They can't regulate what they can't find.

3D printing is the beginning of the end of basically all forms of firearm regulation regarding who can own firearms and what kind.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

This will make Kirk sad. A new version of a printable gun comes out, (The Liberator) and there's already a move on to stop the technology in political circles. Probably afraid people might sneak them into the capitol and do in the criminals in charge of this country. The genie is out of the bottle and it won't be stoppered again, no matter how much scared politicians might like to seal it back up.

This Is The World's First Entirely 3D-Printed Gun (Photos) - Forbes

Kirk already posted about this, and there is a bit of discussion regarding new legislation in the thread.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...rinted_liberator_is_here_now.html#post4151615

 

[longbow]

I have a set of files, a hack saw and some metal. Don't forget a drill and tap and die set. On the shelf is metal bars and blocks.

Guess I'm a gun builder..............

 

[Kirk Freeman]

3-D printing does the machining for you.

All the years, if not decades of experienced mill work, are replaced with a click of the mouse.

 

[MikeDVB]

3-D printing does the machining for you.

All the years, if not decades of experienced mill work, are replaced with a click of the mouse.

Now we just need 3D Printers that deposit metal alloys and not plastic .

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Now we just need 3D Printers that deposit metal alloys and not plastic .

Dude, they are already here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Px6RSL9Ac

 

[MikeDVB]

Hmmmmmmmmm

 

[shibumiseeker]

Read my mind. Threat of enforcement != actual regulation.

They can't regulate what they can't find.

3D printing is the beginning of the end of basically all forms of firearm regulation regarding who can own firearms and what kind.

Uh, yeah. Keep believing that. It's pretty easy to make a full auto weapon too, and while there may be millions of unregistered ones buried out there, you don't see many people using them.

Color laser printing should have been the end of paper currency because anyone could print out pretty realistic bills, but it hasn't been.

Yeah, every now and then a home counterfeit bill gets found and every now and then bubba gets busted for having an illegal machine gun, but the reason more people don't do it is because they enforce the hell out of those laws and make an example of everyone they can.

More to the point, having to own an expensive piece of machinery that requires special feedstocks isn't exactly conducive to cheap guns for the average homeowner. Even if the cost comes down to reasonable prices we're still decades away from the ability to produce the level of quality a home machinist can do with a lathe and drillpress.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Uh, yeah. Keep believing that. It's pretty easy to make a full auto weapon too, and while there may be millions of unregistered ones buried out there, you don't see many people using them.

Color laser printing should have been the end of paper currency because anyone could print out pretty realistic bills, but it hasn't been.

Yeah, every now and then a home counterfeit bill gets found and every now and then bubba gets busted for having an illegal machine gun, but the reason more people don't do it is because they enforce the hell out of those laws and make an example of everyone they can.

More to the point, having to own an expensive piece of machinery that requires special feedstocks isn't exactly conducive to cheap guns for the average homeowner. Even if the cost comes down to reasonable prices we're still decades away from the ability to produce the level of quality a home machinist can do with a lathe and drillpress.

THIS!

Now we will actually see how "pro" 2A many firearm companies claim to be. I'm not that optimistic.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Now we will actually see how "pro" 2A many firearm companies claim to be. I'm not that optimistic.

What steps have firearm companies taken to stop personally manufactured firearms?

Right, zero.

Why would printing off guns be any different?

 

[Kutnupe14]

What steps have firearm companies taken to stop personally manufactured firearms?

Right, zero.

Why would printing off guns be any different?

The same reason record companies never tried to start regulating privately recorded music until CD recorders came out, quality and speed.

 

[mrjarrell]

Looks like Schumer's in on the new regulation, too. He's upset.

Schumer: U.S. needs to block 3D plastic guns like

 

[Kirk Freeman]

He's upset

I am joyous. May he always be upset.