The Thresher's last dance.

[actaeon277]

"The United States Submarine Force in World War II was known as the Silent Service because the heroic deeds of submariners were kept secret. This slender force, with only 1.6 percent of the total personnel of the U.S. Navy, sunk fully 55 percent of the 10 million tons of Japanese warships and merchantment accounted for by Allied sea and air armadas. The price of this remarkable success was shatteringly high. Fifty-two boats were lost; 22 percent of submarine crewmen died in action. Their ships became their steel coffins. This was the highest fatality rate of any branch of the U.S. Armed Forces. Seven submariners won the Medal of Honor, the nation’s highest decoration for valor. Thirty-seven submarines were awarded the elite Presidential Unit Citation; another thirtysix boats were recipients of the slightly lesser Navy Unit Commendation—by far the highest ratio of any class of warship."

The Bravest Man: Richard O'Kane and the Amazing Submarine Adventures of the USS Tang" by William Touhy

 

[actaeon277]

Crash Dive: True Stories of Submarine Combat
INTRODUCTION by Larry Bond

A sub has no defenses except for the fact that it is very hard to see through water. After fifty years of technological progress, the primary ASW sensor is still sonar. Others sensors, ranging from sniffing diesel fumes to detecting neutrinos and Kelvin wakes, have not panned out. A sub simply depends on theopacity of water to conceal its movements, both on approach and as it makes its escape.

 

[actaeon277]

In 1998 only about seven percent of the Navy's people were submariners, though they operated one-third of the Navy's warships.

 

[actaeon277]

But there are no tombstones in the sea. Only the drifting remnants of disaster.
Victory at Sea documentary episode 1 of 26 (Design for War) copyright 1952 NBC

 

[Thor]

I really enjoyed reading sub stories in JHS and thought I might want to do that. Stories like Run Silent Run Deep, Up Periscope, Tokyo Torpedo, The Deep Six, The Golden Horseshoe, The Sea Wolves...just a few still sitting on my shelves. Then I read about the nuclear service (staying down until the food runs out) and changed my mind, it was more effective as a weapon but seemed to have lost the romance I thought it held...I like tanks and planes too.

 

[Thor]

Also, Victory at Sea . I watched the whole documentary earlier this year.

 

[actaeon277]

I really enjoyed reading sub stories in JHS and thought I might want to do that. Stories like Run Silent Run Deep, Up Periscope, Tokyo Torpedo, The Deep Six, The Golden Horseshoe, The Sea Wolves...just a few still sitting on my shelves. Then I read about the nuclear service (staying down until the food runs out) and changed my mind, it was more effective as a weapon but seemed to have lost the romance I thought it held...I like tanks and planes too.

Months of time under water surrounded by gray walls and dudes.
Not romantic for sure.

 

[churchmouse]

Also, Victory at Sea . I watched the whole documentary earlier this year.

I grew up with this series. Sunday mornings. I saw every one. Might be worth watching agian.

 

[Birds Away]

I grew up with this series. Sunday mornings. I saw every one. Might be worth watching agian.

I have the series on DVD if you want to borrow it.

 

[churchmouse]

I have the series on DVD if you want to borrow it.

That would be stellar. I could make the spouse crazy with it.....

I always looked forward to the series on Sunday morning. That big "V" and the narrator was good times. I really enjoyed it. My dad had a passion for the 2nd WW.

 

[Birds Away]

That would be stellar. I could make the spouse crazy with it.....

I always looked forward to the series on Sunday morning. That big "V" and the narrator was good times. I really enjoyed it. My dad had a passion for the 2nd WW.

It's definitely dated.

 

[churchmouse]

It's definitely dated.

In the day it was great. I am sure some of the footage is dated compared to the newer colorized stuff.

 

[Birds Away]

In the day it was great. I am sure some of the footage is dated compared to the newer colorized stuff.

It couldn't be aired today. I'm sure it would be considered racially insensitive among other things.

 

[actaeon277]

I also have the series

 

[Birds Away]

I also have the series

Of course you do.

 

[churchmouse]

It couldn't be aired today. I'm sure it would be considered racially insensitive among other things.

Yeah way to many snowflakes that have no idea there even was a war.

When my son came home from school and asked what I knew of that conflict I was amazed. He showed me his history book. 3 Paragraphed.......3. Not even a full page. They are deleting/re-writing the history books. I found a few documentary's and we watched them. He was amazed that we were that involved.

 

[Birds Away]

Yeah way to many snowflakes that have no idea there even was a war.

When my son came home from school and asked what I knew of that conflict I was amazed. He showed me his history book. 3 Paragraphed.......3. Not even a full page. They are deleting/re-writing the history books. I found a few documentary's and we watched them. He was amazed that we were that involved.

You would think the leftists who are busy indoctrinating the children would be all over FDR. He practically invented the nanny state.

 

[churchmouse]

You would think the leftists who are busy indoctrinating the children would be all over FDR. He practically invented the nanny state.

So few even know who he is anymore.

 

[spencer rifle]

So few even know who he is anymore.

I know! I know! He's the guy that sent American citizens to concentration camps! And tried to pack the Supreme Court!

 

[churchmouse]

I know! I know! He's the guy that sent American citizens to concentration camps! And tried to pack the Supreme Court!

And in all of this a bad example to push.