Ticket at Fishers WalMart!

[92ThoStro]

Who makes a yellow fire lane anyway, silly Fishers and silly Walmart. Yellow is loading, RED is FIRE, Red HOT. White shouldn't be a fire lane either.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Don't they handle DUI's the same way? If you are intoxicated and have the car turned on then you are Driving Under the Influence... regardless if you are in motion?

You don't even have to have the car running. You only need to have the key in the ignition, even if you are in the back seat sound asleep. I wonder what they will do with newer cars that have proximity-operated transmitters rather than actual keys.

 

[Mos Eisley]

OK.....
Lets review the situation.

Driver breaks the law. Check

Wrong. Fire lane does not meet statutory requirements.

Do words mean things, or do they not?

The same people that argue that the "spirit" of the law makes the technicalities of the law irrelevant are also the ones who will howl the loudest when their rights are threatened because of a "spirit of the law" interpretation that they don't agree with.

You either think that the letter of the law applies equally to everyone, including the enforcers, or you don't. It's really that simple.

 

[RoosterJC]

OK.....
Lets review the situation.

Driver breaks the law. Check
Driver gets a ticket. Check
Driver starts a "Pity Party" thread on INGO. Check
Usual INGO Cop haters chime in and blame all of Society's ills on the Police. Check.

Nothing new or unexpected here. Check

Sorry, Mike. Let's review your assertions:
Driver breaks the law. Maybe. This WalMart "fire lane" violates Indiana Code 3 times (color, size, words), and violates Fishers code two times. What happens if a restaurant violates code? Do you fine the diners?
Driver gets a ticket. Check This is indisputable; but is the ticket valid? (see above)
Driver starts a "Pity Party" thread on INGO. WRONG, absolutely! Read the original post, you will see no whining or complaining. Read the entire thread, you will find where I state, "I just wanted this to be a warning for others" and "I will probably just pay it."
Usual INGO Cop haters chime in and blame all of Society's ills on the Police. Wrong. I haven't seen people blame abortions, poverty, single mother pregnancies, unreasonable school zones, corrupt politicians, et al on police.


It might be prudent to stick to the facts and avoid loose generalizations.

 

[bigus_D]

Oh, but he called us all children... So he wins this "argument"

Bummer!

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I would fight it, probably not worth it to get a lawyer just to try your luck with the system but it doesn't sound like this could be a ticket for parking in a fire zone according to IC.

You learn a lot when standing up for your rights in court. Good luck!

 

[UncleMike]

Sorry, Mike. Let's review your assertions:
Driver breaks the law. Maybe. This WalMart "fire lane" violates Indiana Code 3 times (color, size, words), and violates Fishers code two times. What happens if a restaurant violates code? Do you fine the diners?
Driver gets a ticket. Check This is indisputable; but is the ticket valid? (see above)
Driver starts a "Pity Party" thread on INGO. WRONG, absolutely! Read the original post, you will see no whining or complaining. Read the entire thread, you will find where I state, "I just wanted this to be a warning for others" and "I will probably just pay it."
Usual INGO Cop haters chime in and blame all of Society's ills on the Police. Wrong. I haven't seen people blame abortions, poverty, single mother pregnancies, unreasonable school zones, corrupt politicians, et al on police.


It might be prudent to stick to the facts and avoid loose generalizations.

If you'd do a little reasearch you'll find that these threads are nothing more that "Dog pile on the LEO's" threads.
I've seen thousands of these "Poor me" threads.
They are all pretty much the same format.
"Look at what these damn Cops did this time"
Followed by the whiners chiming in with "legal advice" and "I'da done this."
Or.
"I'da done that"
Well...
I've heard that BS for over forty years.
And, IMO, it's still a "Pity party".

 

[bigus_D]

If you'd do a little research, you'd find this thread isn't one of those threads. Are you LEO? If so, you're being overly sensitive. If not, you are being overly sensitive. Basically, you are being overly sensitive. Go whine somewhere else.

 

[public servant]

Wrong. Fire lane does not meet statutory requirements.

Do words mean things, or do they not?

Absolutely they do.

Even the ones that say:
"FIRE LANE", "FIRE LANE" or "FIRE LANE"

OP, just one question...and seriously, I wouldn't blame you if you fought it. $145 is a lot of money.

But when you parked there, was it your understanding that it was a fire lane?

My personal opinion is violations like this should be like seat belts, not more than about $25. Or better yet, "Hey...don't park there."

As a person that has an 85 year old mother that uses a walker and has a handicapped plate, but still drives very well and insists on going out on her own occasionally (I hate it when she does), I'd like to see the fine for able-bodied folks parking in handicapped spots be no less than $1000...but that's just my opinion and another story.

 

[bigus_D]

He didn't park there. He stopped.

 

[public servant]

Stopped, parked, tomato, tomatoe...

What gear was the car in?

 

[bigus_D]

Stopped, parked, tomato, tomatoe...

I disagree. Well, the code is clear. Parking and stopping are equal under the code... So maybe I agree. But the code is also clear about the requirements for the zone. So I disagree again.

What do you think about carry on college campus. Are colleges not schools??? (If you don't get it, refer to my earlier post)

 

[public servant]

I disagree. Well, the code is clear. Parking and stopping are equal under the code... So maybe I agree. But the code is also clear about the requirements for the zone. So I disagree again.

And as I said, I have no problem if he fights it and it wouldn't alter my pay scale if he wins.

My question was merely...when he parked or stopped there, was there any doubt that the area was intended to be a fire lane? Plain and simple.

edit: I went to college and didn't learn squat...other than how to chug beer thru a beer bong. Therefore they cannot be schools.

 

[Jar_Head]

As long as there is an agreement with the store or property, in writing, the police may enforce the fire lane violation at any time and also stop signs. They do not need permission or an agreement to enforce handicap parking though.

 

[UncleMike]

If you'd do a little research, you'd find this thread isn't one of those threads. Are you LEO? If so, you're being overly sensitive. If not, you are being overly sensitive. Basically, you are being overly sensitive. Go whine somewhere else.

Speaking of research....
You've been here for several years and you haven't learned how to look at a Members Profile?????
Mine states I'm a retired LEO.
And I was living that life before your leftovers were a stain in your Daddys shorts.
IMO
It's not being overly sensitive after four decades of listening to that crap.
It's called being fed up with the whiny, petty, cry babies who want other Members here to side with them in their quest to damn LEO's for doing their job.
That's my opinion on the matter.

 

[bigus_D]

Speaking of research....
You've been here for several years and you haven't learned how to look at a Members Profile?????
Mine states I'm a retired LEO.
And I was living that life before your leftovers were a stain in your Daddys shorts.
IMO
It's not being overly sensitive after four decades of listening to that crap.
It's called being fed up with the whiny, petty, cry babies who want other Members here to side with them in their quest to damn LEO's for doing their job.
That's my opinion on the matter.

Well, go find a Leo bashing thread to trash on. Your comments on this thread are off base.

Btw: thanks for confirming you are being overly sensitive on this issue.

 

[elaw555]

Speaking of research....
You've been here for several years and you haven't learned how to look at a Members Profile?????
Mine states I'm a retired LEO.
And I was living that life before your leftovers were a stain in your Daddys shorts.
IMO
It's not being overly sensitive after four decades of listening to that crap.
It's called being fed up with the whiny, petty, cry babies who want other Members here to side with them in their quest to damn LEO's for doing their job.
That's my opinion on the matter.

Calm down Francis...

 

[fire259]

I didn't bother to read through the multiple pages in this thread, but as an Engineer on a fire department, I wish more police officers would do this. I absolutely hate it when people block the fire lane. I only hope that sometime in my career I get to bust out somebody's windows and lay a 5" through their car, like this...

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I don't believe laws should dictate manners but my personal belief that people who park/stop/sit in front of a building not in a designated parking spot are inconsiderate. That said the IC is very clear how fire lanes should be marked to be recognized under Indiana law.

If the space in question does not meet those stipulations then there should be no ticket.

 

[mrjarrell]

Maybe officer asshat should hang out at the local schools, where parents routinely stand in the fire lane while picking up their kids from school. They even put their cars in park and are there for up to half an hour or more. Guess some departments have cops with a bit of common sense. Fishers wouldn't be among them.