I would say that societal values rooted in history are genuine because they've evolved into morals that pushes forward social evolution as something sustainable. The evidence of its sustainability over is that those morals are very, very old, while others that did not push humanity forward died out.
What is socially acceptable is also dependent on culture and other factors, but the root of those are generally the same.
There's another way societal values change. Through social contagions. This is a much faster process and does not necessarily lead to social values that are sustainable. My disagreement with your philosophy is that it doesn't take a majority to change what is socially acceptable.
Nazis were a minority and they infected a whole nation who deep down knew better. Communists were a minority in Russia...similar story. China? Similar story. Minorities gaining power over the majority by telling a slick story. Social contagions. Societal control of the majority by using shame and intimidation to force compliance through social pressure.
The situation we find ourselves in now, for example, is that strong minority is imposing new social values by gaining control of institutional power. They're just catchy ideas that sound good to gullible people.
So now we have a society where there's a strong minority who pushes men in underwear thrusting their crotches in children's faces. Normally, society would push back on that. Hard. We'd through those ********ers in jail. That's where they belong. But sane people have lost control of the institutions, and now are ruled by a minority of woke idiots.
Well, now, it looks like you were making an "ought" argument.
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
In that sense I agree with you. But the striking thing about this is that it is at the individual level. An individual choice to sacrifice oneself for the good of everyone, not being coerced by society, but willingly giving up one's own life for the good of others, is a beautiful concept. Society should have no expectation that any given individual should sacrifice him or herself for others. As soon as it becomes an expectation, it's now a form of social tyranny. And then it is not compelling at all. It's horrifying.
Human nature is individualistic and groupish. We are all individuals. And we're all social creatures. We operate at both levels, but socialogically, it's about 90% individual and 10% groupish. What has advanced humans the furthest is when they started prioritizing the individual more than the group in the West. Ancient Greek societies dabbled with the concept. And along with that came advancements as well.
Individuals who are free to imagine what they will, tend to imagine the greatest things.
Let's get back to the idea of social values derived from thousands of years of social evolution, vs those concocted from the ivory towers of ideological nonsense. Those are merely social contagions. They haven't done anything to further humanity.
And just because social values have evolved from generation to generation through millennia, does not mean they are absolute, eternal values. We learn to override the less useful values over time as our morality evolves. We've evolved past owning people, for example. That took a long time. When we tried to force the evolution it resulted in a bloody war and over a century of resentment. I'm not arguing that it should have continued. I'm just saying what the results were.
Society will survive if it values the things that keep it going forward. I've said before that the right needs the left and the left needs the right. Without the left we wouldn't progress past the social norms that tend to harm humans. Because conservatives want to conserve the status quo. They resist change. If there were no healthy left, we'd not progress past those things.
The left continually wants to push the social boundaries. They don't value tradition. They value change. Eternal progression. But without the right, they would push past boundaries that work to keep society viable. They don't know when they've gone too far. They need the right to push back on change so that the change we get is incremental, and limited towards a viable future.
But the left is impatient. They've worked hard to silence the right so that they can progress unchallenged as far as they please without much push-back. They don't know that they HAVE gone to far now. And you don't either. The sexualizing kids is not sustainable.
Read the books on queer theory. The goal is to denormalize everything that is normal. The people doing this think that the only way to end oppression is to destabilize "normal". It is a war on everything normal. They believe (and this is actually true) that humans build institutions around that which is normal.
Before institutions can form around any new "normal" it must be torn down before it creates new oppression against newly marginalized people, who don't fit into that new normal. So it's sexualizing kids now. When that becomes "normal" then those will be the new oppressors. And then that "normal" must be dismantled, before institutions can be built around it.
Problem is, they don't realize they're already oppressing those kids. Their new normal IS oppressive. They're the bad guys. But they think the bad guys are the ones trying to protect those kids from predators. Those men sticking their junk in young children's faces are the oppressors. The social norms that have advanced society to this place should be protecting children. They are our future. That's what keeps humans evolving. But this will work to end humanity if we don't stop it.
