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Tourniquet fears, Revisited
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I don't know anything about this so forgive me. But I kind of had it in my mind that if you need to put on a TQ that you loosen it every little bit for a very short time to allow some blood flow back to the limb. Is this just totally crazy?
I guess if you were alone then this may be pretty crazy because you could pass out and then bleed out. I am thinking more about if you have someone there with you and you are in fair proximety to medical care.
I guess if you were alone then this may be pretty crazy because you could pass out and then bleed out. I am thinking more about if you have someone there with you and you are in fair proximety to medical care.
Backwards from my training and Personal Experience...
When you look at the Wound you will KNOW whether a Dressing or a will stop the flow. If it is heavy enough you think a Pressure Dressing might be needed just go straight to a TQ, then Dress the wound. Forget about trying the Proximal Artery Pressure Point, I consider it just a step below praying for the Blood flow to stop...
Once a TQ is installed NEVER loosen it. Leave that to the Surgeons at the Med Facility to do.
Even if you are 12+ Hours from a Med Facility Do NOT loosen the TQ!
This is a good point that I know is lost on some (perhaps not reading this, but elsewhere). The medical gear I carry is first and foremost for me, then I could also use it to help someone else if the need arises. Circumstances my prevent us from treating our own wound with pressure immediately, but there may be time to apply a tourniquet so any continuing problems can then be addressed more effectively.
When you think primarily in terms of attending to someone else who is injured, it may be less apparent why a tourniquet that you can apply quickly with one hand may be so useful.
When you think primarily in terms of attending to someone else who is injured, it may be less apparent why a tourniquet that you can apply quickly with one hand may be so useful.
Class: Sig Tactical Aid Course (S.T.A.C)
Date: February 24, 25, 26th, 2012
Time: 0830-1700hrs
Location: Post 46
8888 Dexter Town-Hall Rd.
Pinckney, Mi. 48169
Tuition: $500 for all three days plus a 60 dollar range fee that covers all three days
Instructor: Kerry Davis ( Sig Sauer Academy)
Kerry Davis, formerly of Magpul Dynamics, Is now heading up Sig Sauer Academies Medical Division. We are bringing Kerry in for a 3 day live fire Medical class in February. This is a can't miss class. The important thing to realize is this training goes way beyond the firearms world. We are more likely to use medical training in out every day lives than using our weapons.
This class should have no problem hitting the minimum required student amount and should fill fast.
Here is the course description and a link to our new course at SIG Sauer Academy. Let me know if y'all have any questions.
Bullets and bandages
Duration: 3 days / 24 hours
Overview
* Mind and body reactions to environmental stress
* Maintaining the Combat Mindset
* Basic anatomy and physiology of life-sustaining systems
* HABCs – Hemorrhage, Airway, Breathing and Circulation
* Individual Med Kits (IMK): what you need and how to use it
* Basic first aid and advanced wound care, including use of tourniquets
* Recognition and treatment of injuries
* Response to an active shooter situation
* Proper use of cover vs. concealment
* Recovery of a casualty during active shooter situations
* Emergency medical dialect and lingo
Notes
Estimated round count: 200 carbine and 200 pistol MINIMUM.
Equipment List:
* Notepad with pen/pencil/Sharpie
* Clothing suited to strenuous activity and seasonally appropriate
* Footwear suited for rapid movement and turning
* Earmuffs (electronic preferred)
* Wraparound eye wear, polycarbonate lenses or non-shattering prescription glasses
* Hat with brim
* Primary weapon sling, single point or a good system that allows flexibility for transitions and non-dominant side weapon manipulations
* A rig that can carry a minimum of four primary magazines on your person
* Functioning secondary weapons system and three working magazines
* A holster and magazine pouch that will retain your equipment when moving
* Weapon tools and lube
* Hydration system
* Sunscreen and bug spray
* Optics with necessary adjustment tools and spare batteries
* Gloves, and knee and elbow pads (optional)
* An open mind
This is an intermediate level class. The student needs to know and be able to demonstrate safe gun handling, weapon system familiarity, foundational marksmanship skills, and working from a holster. No prior first aid training is required.
Will you know how to react after gunfire? In critical injury situations, most don’t know what they don’t know until it’s too late. This 3-day course focuses on basic, lifesaving emergency medical skills blended with weapons manipulation in live-fire, high risk scenarios. Students are expected to utilize their equipment and knowledge while under stress to “save” critically injured team members in real-life scenarios. This course is suitable for armed professionals and responsible citizens.
http://www.sigsaueracademy.com/Cours...x?CourseID=211
Registration should be up on Sigs website within the next few days.
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Date: February 24, 25, 26th, 2012
Time: 0830-1700hrs
Location: Post 46
8888 Dexter Town-Hall Rd.
Pinckney, Mi. 48169
Tuition: $500 for all three days plus a 60 dollar range fee that covers all three days
Instructor: Kerry Davis ( Sig Sauer Academy)
Kerry Davis, formerly of Magpul Dynamics, Is now heading up Sig Sauer Academies Medical Division. We are bringing Kerry in for a 3 day live fire Medical class in February. This is a can't miss class. The important thing to realize is this training goes way beyond the firearms world. We are more likely to use medical training in out every day lives than using our weapons.
This class should have no problem hitting the minimum required student amount and should fill fast.
Here is the course description and a link to our new course at SIG Sauer Academy. Let me know if y'all have any questions.
Bullets and bandages
Duration: 3 days / 24 hours
Overview
* Mind and body reactions to environmental stress
* Maintaining the Combat Mindset
* Basic anatomy and physiology of life-sustaining systems
* HABCs – Hemorrhage, Airway, Breathing and Circulation
* Individual Med Kits (IMK): what you need and how to use it
* Basic first aid and advanced wound care, including use of tourniquets
* Recognition and treatment of injuries
* Response to an active shooter situation
* Proper use of cover vs. concealment
* Recovery of a casualty during active shooter situations
* Emergency medical dialect and lingo
Notes
Estimated round count: 200 carbine and 200 pistol MINIMUM.
Equipment List:
* Notepad with pen/pencil/Sharpie
* Clothing suited to strenuous activity and seasonally appropriate
* Footwear suited for rapid movement and turning
* Earmuffs (electronic preferred)
* Wraparound eye wear, polycarbonate lenses or non-shattering prescription glasses
* Hat with brim
* Primary weapon sling, single point or a good system that allows flexibility for transitions and non-dominant side weapon manipulations
* A rig that can carry a minimum of four primary magazines on your person
* Functioning secondary weapons system and three working magazines
* A holster and magazine pouch that will retain your equipment when moving
* Weapon tools and lube
* Hydration system
* Sunscreen and bug spray
* Optics with necessary adjustment tools and spare batteries
* Gloves, and knee and elbow pads (optional)
* An open mind
This is an intermediate level class. The student needs to know and be able to demonstrate safe gun handling, weapon system familiarity, foundational marksmanship skills, and working from a holster. No prior first aid training is required.
Will you know how to react after gunfire? In critical injury situations, most don’t know what they don’t know until it’s too late. This 3-day course focuses on basic, lifesaving emergency medical skills blended with weapons manipulation in live-fire, high risk scenarios. Students are expected to utilize their equipment and knowledge while under stress to “save” critically injured team members in real-life scenarios. This course is suitable for armed professionals and responsible citizens.
http://www.sigsaueracademy.com/Cours...x?CourseID=211
Registration should be up on Sigs website within the next few days.
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What is the Red and Black Cord on your CAT for?!CAT going in the bag:
I marked the CAT and Izzy with red cord for identification. For now they ride loose in my bag. The black "cord" is a hair tie to keep it contained. Bad idea? Suggestions appreciated.
I am not a fan of ebay. However, I'd be in for two if you are gonna start a group buy.
I had just never seen it done and had to ask...
I like to pick up tricks to make life easier...
Bad idea?!
Try it and let us know what you think of it...
My CAT and Izzy are in designated pouches to hold them. The Blowout Kits (CAT, Izzy, 2x Compressed Gauze, and a QuikClot Gauze) I have set up are taped together, I have never really cared for it just I have not seen a better way.
How easy is it to untie with Gloves on?!
I am not a fan of ebay. However, I'd be in for two if you are gonna start a group buy.
I looked at that guys store for quite a while and oddly enough he sells them cheaper as single CAT's. No shipping or handling charges too. He also sells them in (I think) 3 or 4 or 5 to a package groups but the price is higher than if you bought from the single "buy it now" auction and then just changed the number to however many you wanted.
I think, therefore, with his setup it would be silly to do a GB. First 40 people there win. Go!
I've been sitting on the fence regarding this for quite a while. I'm just getting started on the organizing. I'd be interested in seeing your taped together kit.
Good point on the gloves. The paracord is tied to swipe or fall out of the way. I'm not sure about the hair tie.
I'll work on getting Pics for you to see.
