Traditional Commander 1911

[cmamath13]

You're very close (money wise) on a fine custom 1911 just the way you want it... Les Baer Custom Inc.

Yeah, I saw a Baer Commanche on GB for just over my limit. Sweet pistol and Les is nice.

 

[churchmouse]

Ruger steel frame Commander. I don't think any parts are MIM, just cast steel. Meets all other requirements....

MIM internals I believe.
They are well fit up guns though.

 

[bjenkins]

MIM internals I believe.
They are well fit up guns though.

Does the Dan Wesson also use MIM internals?

 

[churchmouse]

Does the Dan Wesson also used MIM internals?

This I can not answer. I have replaced the ignition controls on 1 Valor but paid little attention to the parts.

 

[01deuce]

Does the Dan Wesson also used MIM internals?

Zero mim parts in a Dan Wesson.

 

[Jeff]

Are you looking for a "true" Commander size 1911?

 

[cmamath13]

Are you looking for a "true" Commander size 1911?

I believe so. I would like a 4.25" barrel with Gi Guide Rod.

Is 4.25" TRUE commander size?

 

[Jeff]

It is, and there are quite of few manufacturers that don't make a true Commander size 1911, Les Baer being one.
I think the Colt Commander 04691 would be a great start.
Send it to their custom shop with what you want done. (no mim, etc)
They do excellent work.

 

[cmamath13]

Thanks Jeff. I didn't even think about that.

Is the Baer 4" or something?

 

[sig1473]

Almost all the newer guns are full of MIM crap.

I hope you never fly because the aerospace industry use a lot of MIM parts.

 

[halfmileharry]

I hope you never fly because the aerospace industry use a lot of MIM parts.

Nope, I don't get higher than pickin' corn nor lower than diggin' taters.
I'm NEVER flying again now that I heard that.

 

[Jeff]

Thanks Jeff. I didn't even think about that.

Is the Baer 4" or something?

It is, same with Springfield Armory and a few others. I believe the Ruger is a true Commander but it isn't near your specifications.

 

[Jeff]

Give Keith at Dan Wesson Firearms a call.
Although the traditional Commander is not a catalog item, there is a gentleman on the 1911Forum that is having one built.
And they use all you specifications.
Worth a shot.

 

[churchmouse]

It is, and there are quite of few manufacturers that don't make a true Commander size 1911, Les Baer being one.
I think the Colt Commander 04691 would be a great start.
Send it to their custom shop with what you want done. (no mim, etc)
They do excellent work.

Colt just filed Chapter 11. I would not send anything into that mess nor buy anything from them.

 

[EricG]

I am not aware of anything with everything listed. Id buy a Colt 1991 Commander O4691and snatch out the series 80's stuff.

 

[cmamath13]

Give Keith at Dan Wesson Firearms a call.
Although the traditional Commander is not a catalog item, there is a gentleman on the 1911Forum that is having one built.
And they use all you specifications.
Worth a shot.

Thanks again Jeff. I have been looking at the DW commanders (bob-tailed) and definitely considering one. I will look into getting in touch with Keith.

 

[cmamath13]

Colt just filed Chapter 11. I would not send anything into that mess nor buy anything from them.

Yeah, I wondered about that. Crazy that COLT can't manage their finances.

 

[Jeff]

Thanks again Jeff. I have been looking at the DW commanders (bob-tailed) and definitely considering one. I will look into getting in touch with Keith.

I have owned three VBOB's. I gave it a shot, three times, but I just couldn't get used to the grip. You won't be disappointed in the quality of a DW.

 

[LCSOSgt11]

Then look for a Colt Combat Commander, series 70 or 80. They were made in carbon steel and stainless. It's a Colt. You may want to consider the Kimbers also.

 

[Sirshredalot]

Kimbers have that stupid front serration...

Love my kimber...hate front serrations.

I can COMPLETELY relate to what this gentleman wants.....a classy, well made GI style commander....all the stuff on the market has this "flare" crap going on....fancy serrations, angled serrations, giant swoopy beavertails, bobtails, slide cuts, etc.

What is so hard about making a clean and classy commander in carbon steel?

The colts from the 70's are still usually under $1k, and the series 80 guns can be converted....but nobody makes a decent clean commander or GI these days for under $1500?
Colt quality through the years has been a crap shoot anyway...had an officer that shot patterns not groups and 7 yards.

The GI's are great...theyre just parkerized...I guess you could refinish and brand new gun and swap the firing parts out....but why should you have to?

MIM parts arent really all that bad...matter for fact theyre quite strong(they make connecting rods and engine blocks out of it)...but it looks like crap.
Looks all "new fangled and smooth".

God bless
-Shred