Trump on Suppressors: “I don’t like them at all.”

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  • HoughMade

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    Bob Corker hasn't ruled out a primary challenge to Trump, I think.

    Bill Weld, while not exactly a consistent 2A supporter, has at least only been as inconsistent as Trump himself, and brings a more libertarian mindset.

    I could get on board with Bob Corker.
     

    Ggreen

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    Someone tell me one thing Trump has done to enhance our freedoms? Name one thing he has done in support of the 2a?

    He is our best choice is brainwashed nonsense on par with wearing red on the mid 1700s.... Just saying, he is not our best choice, he is not a conservative, he is the democrats Trojan horse and he has blinded an entire generation of Cristian conservatives to think he is some kind of family man, God fearing, gun toting republican.... He isn't and he has never been. Actions speak louder than words and his executive actions are gross abuses of our rights. I hope an impeachment sticks and we get to spend some time with pence. Trump is a scumbag.
     

    T.Lex

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    I hope an impeachment sticks ....

    I know there's a whole thread on this, but since the tangent came up here, I absolutely hope that the impeachment process is not invoked.

    That would be the worst case for the country, in many ways, IMHO. Not the least of which is to likely galvanize Trump's support leading up to 2020.

    Rather, Trump should be allowed the freedom to continue to do what he's doing and let's have a referendum on his presidency in the form of a primary, then general election.
     

    HoughMade

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    Speaking as a Christian conservative, I harbor no illusions about who Trump is. However, I would note that he is simply more "out there" about who he is than most politicians...and yes, he is a politician.

    As for impeachment, I don't see it.

    That being said, this is real life, not a high-school mock election. There are boatloads of candidates I like better...but he's the guy in office, the one who beat the Democrat.

    If there were a good conservative who could beat the Democrat in 2020, I'd say- let's do it. Not knowing who that would be right now, the best we may be able to do is a third-rate Republican, but in my book, that's better than the alternative. The whole: "let's get a leftist in office so people see how bad it is and elect a conservative" is ludicrous. I heard that a lot in 2008. Crazy talk.
     

    BugI02

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/442386-corker-i-just-dont-see-path-to-challenge-trump-in-2020
    Corker: 'I just don't' see path to challenge Trump in 2020


    Former Republican Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.) on Monday appeared to voice an unwillingness to launch a 2020 primary challenge against President Trump, saying that he didn't really see a path for a presidential candidacy.

    "I think for someone to undertake that, they have to feel there's at least somewhat of an opportunity to actually be elected," Corker, a fierce critic of Trump's, told reporters after a speech at the Nashville Rotary Club, according to The Times Free Press. "I see no point in just doing it to [run], you know, I just don't."


    He's tanned, he's rested, he's ready

    So what if he's a disaster, he's not Trump

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    Ziggidy

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    Someone tell me one thing Trump has done to enhance our freedoms? Name one thing he has done in support of the 2a?

    He is our best choice is brainwashed nonsense on par with wearing red on the mid 1700s.... Just saying, he is not our best choice, he is not a conservative, he is the democrats Trojan horse and he has blinded an entire generation of Cristian conservatives to think he is some kind of family man, God fearing, gun toting republican.... He isn't and he has never been. Actions speak louder than words and his executive actions are gross abuses of our rights. I hope an impeachment sticks and we get to spend some time with pence. Trump is a scumbag.

    Well, I hope you feel better now.

    Just curious, as things stand right now, who would you vote for (if the election was held today)? And why....
     
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    Ggreen

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    Well, I hope you feel better now.

    Just curious, as things stand right now, who would you vote for (if the election was held today)? And why....

    At this point I'll vote weld... I've lost all faith in the generation that we are forced to choose from though. 18 years of war, lies, deception, erosion of rights, increasingly invasive big gov... I'll never vote for someone who brazenly attacks the 2a while recieving awards for being pro 2a... He is a scumbag and my conscience won't allow me to vote for him. To many spineless voters will continue to say how he is better than this or that, make excuses for him, and send him into a term where he doesn't have to worry about reelection. Imagine what his pen will do when he doesn't have to care about his approval ratings
     

    HoughMade

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    ..and too many arrogant voters think their "conscience" is more important than sticking the country with the worst possible outcome when we could have had a less than optimal outcome.
     

    spec4

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    Yeah, I like to remind the anti Trumpers what their alternative was. I don't think I'm out of line in saying we could well be in a civil war by now.

    I've yet to see a perfect human being and certainly didn't expect it in Trump. His romantic adventures, IMO are between him and Melania. Sure, I'd love him to shout 2A from the rooftops, but he has put dozens of Federal Judges on the bench for life. Many seem to overlook the importance of that to freedom. Some of them will no doubt turn out to be socialists, but most won't.

    And what POTUS in our time has taken the BS flak he has? I almost think he thrives on it. I'm sticking with the guy.
     

    Ggreen

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    ..and too many arrogant voters think their "conscience" is more important than sticking the country with the worst possible outcome when we could have had a less than optimal outcome.

    Trump is proving to basically be on par with the worst possible outcome. I voted for his lies once, I wont make that mistake again.
     

    Alpo

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    The very stable genius is either succumbing to the stress of the office or perhaps losing a bit of his mental fitness ( and lord knows he was out of shape in that arena since birth). I wonder whether he can mentally hold together for another 4 years. I have become more concerned about "senior" matters lately as I approach 70 and see friends no longer with us or having a good friend and musician stroke at 69.

    Seriously, I believe both parties should look to younger candidates for 2020. Biden is 76. Trump is 72. Neither of whom seem to exhibit wisdom in any great quantity. Distracted, for certain. Relevant, less so by the day. I'm certain that if they were driving a car, they'd be the ones on the freeway causing accidents and leaving a blinker on full time.
     

    Brad69

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    Wow President Tump really stepped on it this time!
    It’s worse than when he was booed out of the NRA convention for making anti 2A comments.
    If only one of the Democrats would get elected President and then if the Democrats take back the senate we could really advance the 2A!
     

    KG1

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    The media wanted to get a quick, hopefully negative sound bite from Trump on suppressors that they could run with. They got one.
     

    BugI02

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    ..and too many arrogant voters think their "conscience" is more important than sticking the country with the worst possible outcome when we could have had a less than optimal outcome.

    D'accord

    https://www.lawliberty.org/2019/05/29/five-insights-christianity-brings-to-politics/
    Five Insights Christianity Brings to Politics

    Politics cannot solve the fundamental problems of suffering, evil, sin, and death. We cannot be redeemed by the state or technology, or the dictator or the majority. This anti-utopianism is not pessimism or apathy in the face of injustice. Nor is it false optimism that things will get better. What anti-utopianism does is put politics in its proper place and warns us that we cannot create perfect justice. In his Truth and Tolerance, Ratzinger also observed:


    "Within this human history of ours the absolutely ideal situation will never exist and a perfected ordering of freedom will never be achieved. An ordering of things that is simply ideal; that is all around right and just will never exist. Wherever such a claim is made, truth is not being spoken. Belief in progress is not false in every respect. But the myth of the liberated world of the future in which everything is different and everything will be good is false. We can only ever construct relative social orders which can only ever be relatively right and just. Yet this very same closest possible approach to true right and justice is what we must strive to attain. Everything else, every eschatological promise within history fails to liberate us, rather it disappoints and therefore enslaves us."
     

    Dead Duck

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    Holy ****!
    So I found latest Trump Bashing Thread? Did you guys really want Hillary to win that badly? There is always that other [STRIKE]4%[/STRIKE] 2% party to vote for to guarantee a loss.

    And here I thought this forum had actual gun owners in it.... apparently NOT!

    Hey, I'm critical of anyone in office that talks bad about the 2nd amendment. But I don't want to replace them over every little thing they say. Jeez man. Who the **** would you replace him with anyway?

    You have a problem, tell him. Call your local congress peoples. But don't go on a gun forum and tell me that my guns made the wrong choice in Presidents when they voted last. You know who the wrong choice was for 2016? Everyone else but Trump.
    But you already know this.

    I seriously do not think any of you Trump bashers even own or have shot a gun. Posting here on INGO just make you a bunch of posers.
     

    Ggreen

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    Seriously. Trump is literally peeling away gun rights and everyone is still defending him. Open your eyes he is and always has been a liar. He does not stand up for gun owners in practice or principal. his silver tongue speeches has obviously put a spell on anyone who thinks he stands for the 2nd. His executive actions show a pure anti 2a making every move to take your freedoms. Show me evidence of him being pro gun rights.
     

    spec4

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    Seriously. Trump is literally peeling away gun rights and everyone is still defending him. Open your eyes he is and always has been a liar. He does not stand up for gun owners in practice or principal. his silver tongue speeches has obviously put a spell on anyone who thinks he stands for the 2nd. His executive actions show a pure anti 2a making every move to take your freedoms. Show me evidence of him being pro gun rights.


    Can you name a POTUS since Roosevelt who has not lied to us? Where do you think your "gun rights", the Second Amendment, be if Hillary were in office? Regarding your last sentence, I posted about his hiring of conservative judges. If he were anti 2A would he not be putting whacked out liberals on the bench to hasten the end of 2A?
     

    Dead Duck

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    Seriously. Trump is literally peeling away gun rights and everyone is still defending him. Open your eyes he is and always has been a liar. He does not stand up for gun owners in practice or principal. his silver tongue speeches has obviously put a spell on anyone who thinks he stands for the 2nd. His executive actions show a pure anti 2a making every move to take your freedoms. Show me evidence of him being pro gun rights.

    Who did you vote for?

    Who would you rather see as President taking away your rights?

    Do you actually own and shoot guns while posting on a gun forum?
     
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