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    jsx1043

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    lovemachine

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    This approval is hilarious.

    So let me get it straight...
    They approved a different vaccine, but spent breathless hours on podcasts and TV to convince people it's the "same thing."

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    What do you mean they approved a different vaccine?
     

    NKBJ

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    That is THE best articles to read for the newly red-pilled. If one reads that article and follows all the links and takes in all that information, they have completed their first step out of the Matrix.
    I cannot describe how good and wonderful the joy is that media sources are finally publishing pieces of the truth about the bank bug, the reset, the jabs. There is still time to salvage something from it but only if people can understand what is being done to them.
     

    rhamersley

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    And for those that think “republicans” stand for freedom…
    Holcomb says the vaccine is “the answer” to the pandemic. He says he “applauds” businesses
    who are requiring the vaccine or thinking about it.
     

    NKBJ

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    And for those that think “republicans” stand for freedom…
    Perhaps some day people will come to realize as well how left versus right was created to derail discussions of right versus wrong.
     

    OkieGirl

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    During the local news this morning the 'new' commercial campaign was running...sounded a bit like the political ads we see around election time.

    The narrator's tone was angry talking about the unvaccinated then piles on the fear with all the things that will happen to you if you don't get jabbed... No talk at all about breakthrough infections and that most people getting this latest variant were jabbed but it doesn't seem to prevent infection...hum...
     

    wtburnette

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    Nothing to see here just that Dr. Robert Malone is the discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and the inventor of mRNA vaccines. I'm sure he has no clue what he's talking about.

    Especially like this:

    We are not “anti-vax.” One of us (Dr. Malone) invented the core mRNA technology being used by Pfizer and Moderna to produce their vaccines and has spent his entire professional career developing and advancing novel vaccine technologies, vaccines, and other medical countermeasures. The other (Mr. Navarro) played a key role at the Trump White House in jumpstarting Operation Warp Speed and ensuring timely delivery of the vaccines.

    We are simply saying that just because you have a big vaccine hammer, it is not necessarily wise to use it for every nail. The American people deserve better than a universal vaccination strategy under the flag of bad science and enforced through authoritarian measures.
     

    phylodog

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    Wait, are you really telling me to listen to medical advice from someone who calls herself, "What's her face" and makes money making videos like, "Simple Smoothie To Cure Sexual Frustration"?
    There seem to be two camps on this issue.

    Those who watch, listen, read and gather as much information as possible taking into consideration the validity and potential motivations of the source(s) involved and reach an overall conclusion as to the situation we are faced with. Some in this group have opted to get the vaccine based on an evaluation of a wide variety of information and sources while some opt not to. People in this group generally place an extremely high value on freedom as well as the responsibilities and consequences that come with it and typically respect the rights of people to decide for themselves what is or is not a good decision.

    Then there are those who listen to the MSM and TPTB believing those sources are open, honest and trustworthy enough to stop right there. A frighteningly large percentage then seem to climb to a high place and begin dismissing anything that doesn’t agree with the politicians and MSM with well thought out rebuttals like “nuh uh” or just stick with condescension and name calling. The overwhelming majority in this group couldn’t get a jab fast enough and are convinced that this vaccine that isn’t a vaccine, was created within months and not tested to the levels we’ve relied upon for decades would eradicate this virus overnight if only 100% of the population would take the jab in spite of the fact that the vaccinated are still contracting and spreading the virus and contributing to the development of what will apparently be a never ending variety of variants. These people value their personal safety over anything and are content to relegate freedom to the history books so long as they can believe that they are safe. This group believes their “right” to feel safe justifies forcing everyone else to believe what they believe.
     

    NKBJ

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    During the local news this morning the 'new' commercial campaign was running...sounded a bit like the political ads we see around election time.

    The narrator's tone was angry talking about the unvaccinated then piles on the fear with all the things that will happen to you if you don't get jabbed... No talk at all about breakthrough infections and that most people getting this latest variant were jabbed but it doesn't seem to prevent infection...hum...
    And still, still, people cannot hold a reasoned discussion on why this is being done to them.
     

    5.56'aholic

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    I think I understand where the 5x is coming from.

    Distilling from Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of confirmed and provisional Delta cases in England by vaccination status
    (1 February 2021 to 2 August 2021)

    Total cases (age independent)..................2 Doses: 47,008 Unvaccinated: 151,054
    Total deaths within 28 days (age independent)..2 Doses: 402 Unvaccinated: 253

    402/47,008 = .0085517358747447
    253/151,054 = .0016748977186966

    .008552/.001675 = 5.10567


    Ignoring age, the proportion of fully vaccinated (2 doses) individuals who acquired the Delta variant and died within 28 days is 5.1~ times greater than the proportion of unvaccinated individuals who acquired the Delta variant and died within 28 days.

    That said, it doesn't translate to "five times more likely to die from the Delta variant if you are fully vaccinated". To @actaeon277's point above, there are too many unknowns around this data to draw any such conclusion.

    I only skimmed it, but this report appears to be focused on sharing raw data around the variants and the subsequent impact on NHS resources.

    Later studies may attempt to dig deep into the case details not detailed here and attempt to draw conclusions (which will look more like this: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072)
    exactly, but it is real world real time data. Attached is the latest report.
     

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    phylodog

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    Here is some really solid disinformation on ivermectin promote by a couple of guys who stand to make a lot of money from this discussion. Clearly this type of discussion should be dismissed based on nothing more than CNN, MSNBC or your politicians saying “nuh uh”.

    You can dismiss it to maintain your false sense of security or you can consider it plausible, compile it with everything else and give it the weight you feel appropriate.

     

    JettaKnight

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    That is THE best articles to read for the newly red-pilled. If one reads that article and follows all the links and takes in all that information, they have completed their first step out of the Matrix.
    I'm pretty sure the red pill is included with the vaccine. ;)
     
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