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VOTING LESSER OF TWO EVILS WON'T SAVE AMERICA
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That last line is a doozy.
Also vote your conscience. I would rather live with myself knowing I voted for someone who would uphold the Constitution then to vote for someone who is going to run headlong off of a cliff, albeit one step behind the other guy.
Also vote your conscience. I would rather live with myself knowing I voted for someone who would uphold the Constitution then to vote for someone who is going to run headlong off of a cliff, albeit one step behind the other guy.
Well just make sure you get out and vote.
I'm really tiring of the idea that the two concepts are mutually exclusive and that--as the author of the article implied--voting for the lesser of two evils makes me un-American, or unworthy of being in her country.
And that's just the way the D's and R's would like for you to think.
I've never voted for a Lib candidate, until now. I just can't bring myself to vote for Coats or Ellsworth. Sooooooooooo many people feel the same way in my circle of friends and workers, yet they all say the same thing as you....my vote for a Lib would be a waste. Well, let's all vote Lib and see what happens.
What a crock of crap. To hear half of INGO speak, voting for anybody is a vote for evil since all politicians are inherently evil and in need of a lobotomy and attitude re-adjustment.
Besides, I don't see that there is a "not evil" option if evil is defined as how closely a candidate aligns with my views.
If you believe that by voting for the "lesser of two evils" you are one step closer to where you want the United States to be then by all means vote that way. There is nothing wrong with voting the lesser of two evils if you think it is beneficial to where you think we should be headed. I personally think we just keep going backwards, so I will vote for a third party in the Senate race and hope many others do the same.
Also, the author is saying that people are trying the same "lesser of two evils" over and over and over again and they forever get the same result. Was she a bit harsh at the end? Yes, but after someone keeps doing the same thing expecting different results it may be time to bop them on the head.
Of course the same could be said of the LP.
What a crock of crap. To hear half of INGO speak, voting for anybody is a vote for evil since all politicians are inherently evil and in need of a lobotomy and attitude re-adjustment.
Besides, I don't see that there is a "not evil" option if evil is defined as how closely a candidate aligns with my views.
Well, the lesser of two evils implies both are evil right?
It's not the lesser of 3 evils.
The LP is the only logical choice for me. She most accurately aligns with my beliefs. I could care less what her chances of winning are.
Voting for someone just because you think they have the best shot of winning is gambling, not a way to represent yourself in a Democratic Republic.
If you truly believe that both "evil" parties are equal, it makes sense to vote third party.
If you truly believe that both parties are evil, but one is less evil, and you vote for a third party you don't think has a chance to win, but your vote will help the more evil party, you are voting against your interests.
Do you think your ideals about how the country should be are achievable? I've decided that my ideals can't be achieved. Now what should I do? The best I can do is influence the system to be less socialist, rather than more.
Libertarianism is a small voice in the Republican Party. The Democrat Party has completely and totally rejected libertarian values. I'll vote Republican, not because I'm a loyal Republican, not because I believe they'll save the country, not because their record has been great. Simply because their version of socialism is more diluted than the Dems.
You can play the game by the real world rules that exist, or you can play the game according to the rules you wish existed.
If you truly believe that both parties are evil, but one is less evil, and you vote for a third party you don't think has a chance to win, but your vote will help the more evil party, you are voting against your interests.
Do you think your ideals about how the country should be are achievable? I've decided that my ideals can't be achieved. Now what should I do? The best I can do is influence the system to be less socialist, rather than more.
Libertarianism is a small voice in the Republican Party. The Democrat Party has completely and totally rejected libertarian values. I'll vote Republican, not because I'm a loyal Republican, not because I believe they'll save the country, not because their record has been great. Simply because their version of socialism is more diluted than the Dems.
You can play the game by the real world rules that exist, or you can play the game according to the rules you wish existed.
QFT
I choose to live in the reality that all men are inherently evil. Some more than others but evil stains us all. So I vote my conscience and what I believe will give my country the best opportunity to be successful.
I'm glad to see that a microcosm of a microcosm of the electorate are willing to vote Libertarian. Have at it; I hope they do well, but they aren't going to do well enough to have a realistic chance of getting elected and I'm not willing to "gamble" on Libertarians being effective in their small numbers. At some point, there will either be a national groundswell away from the Republicans and toward the Libertarians, or the Libertarians will gradually fade away. Right now, you aren't making a convincing case to enough of the general population. I won't say your vote is wasted; no vote is wasted, but your vote will most likely be ineffective on a national level.
That's just the point though. There is no "less socialism". You will always get more socialism by voting for the two major parties. The only difference is in degree. Less by way of comparison is not less.
Since I'll be getting more socialism either way, I may as well have my vote accurately reflect my ideals.
You only perceive your vote to be effective because you're voting for someone who you think will win the election. The effectiveness of winning that election is up for debate and it sounds more like gambling on a winner than asserting your political power.
How effective do you think Coats will be in supporting your ideals?
I think a vote for Libertarian is more effective in that is sends a message to the GOP that more conservative (fiscally) and liberal (socially) candidates are needed.
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Rather than a wasted vote, voting for the Libertarian in any race is the only vote that the D's and R's pay attention to. It tells the older parties that you have seen through the smoke screen they put up and you are no longer fooled. It tells them loud and clear that you demand a return to a fiscally responsible government that is actually small enough to fit inside the Constitution. They both ignore any other vote!
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