What brand of Mace should I get my wife?

[LCSOSgt11]

Kimber makes a dedicated OC type spray device, and wonder of all wonders,

TASER makes what they call the "personal" TASER. It works like the coppers X-26 but smaller. Last known price about $300.00.

If you know an ISP guy, find out where they get what was called "Freeze."
Freeze was a combination of OC and CS. Worked REALLY well according to reports that I heard.

 

[jfed85]

The strongest possible you can we use 5.5% MK-4 at work and its freakin ridiculous. On the stream vs. fog issue I can say that from my experience the fog is not nearly as bad as the stream. a 2 second burst in a line across the eyes from the stream really does the trick. Took about 5 seconds to kick in on me and I was done for haha.

 

[absrio]

The Freeze ++ will take the breath out of everybody in the immediate area. People who have had both Freeze ++ and Defense Tech. MK-3 applied to them most would rather have the Freeze ++.

Also on the Taser C3 it will give a 30 sec immobilization. If it is a legitimate shoot and you drop it and run (like they recommend) you can send a copy of the police report to Taser Int. and they will replace it for free. I can not get my wife to carry a gun, but every time we go to Gander Mtn. at Castleton I ask if she wants a Taser.

 

[melensdad]

I would recommend the style below. This style allows the button to be pushed only if it is pointed towards the target. The button is covered by a spring loaded cover which stops accidental sprays. The typical key chain style will get the "safety" accidentally knocked off .

Just my opinion, but that is exactly the type that I have found to be too small to be effective. My former company distributed those small keychain type canisters with the safety lids. I've seen many girls who have lost those inside their purses. Further, most of those spray a reasonably thin stream, or even a pinpoint stream. I'd much more suggest something that sprays a wide stream, a heavy fog, or a gel.

I also suggest the 3 to 8 ounce canisters not the 1/2 ounce canisters.

 

[pftraining_in]

Just my opinion, but that is exactly the type that I have found to be too small to be effective. My former company distributed those small keychain type canisters with the safety lids. I've seen many girls who have lost those inside their purses. Further, most of those spray a reasonably thin stream, or even a pinpoint stream. I'd much more suggest something that sprays a wide stream, a heavy fog, or a gel.

I also suggest the 3 to 8 ounce canisters not the 1/2 ounce canisters.

I believe the size you are thinking of that are too small are like this:

11gr/.4oz stream unit sprays 6-12 feet. Contains 5, one second bursts.

The following cans are in order of size. I would also recommend the same can that Culpepper does.


The 18gr/.64 oz stream unit sprays 8-12 feet. Contains 10, one second bursts.

Size: 4.25" x 1.38". Range: 8-12 Feet. Spray: Ballistic Stream. Spring loaded safety cap. 46 grams/1.62 oz. 20 one second bursts.
Size commonly carried by LE. Also called the MK-III

Size: 6.25" x 1.50". Range: 8-12 Feet. Spray: Ballistic Stream. Spring loaded flip-top safety cap. 40 one second bursts.
85 grams/3oz Carried in correction facilities. Also called the MK-IV

And if you are Dog the Bounty Hunter:
Size: 9.00" x 2.50". Range: 15-25 Feet. Spray: Fogger. Pistol Grip Dispenser. Multiple Safeties. 25 one second bursts. 520 grams/18oz Also called the MK-IX

I would not recommend any one carrying a 3 to 8 oz can for personal defense. The can would be too large. Do not worry about the number of 1 second burst. Once a can is used, no matter the amount, I would replace it. All OC is only good for 5 yrs. Do not leave any cans in your car in the summer, you may return to a nice surprise that will make the ride home less than enjoyable. As far as the can being too hard to find in a purse, I would highly recommend they carry the can in their hand while walking from point A to point B. This allows them to react quicker and have their keys already in their hand to enter their vehicle. Buy two can so the end user can practice and see the effects of overspray. The person spraying the can will be effected somewhat by the OC, better to find out how bad prior to an actual use.

As far as stream type (this is my opinion and what I have witness during deployments of the different sprays in training and field use) :

Thin Stream: Easy to aim, less cross contamination, less effected by wind, but it can be less effective is the subject is wearing glasses.

Wide Stream: Easy to hit target, but you will contaminate other items or people

Fog: Can not be aimed, effected greatly by the wind, and will contaminate everyone.

Foam/Gel: Easy to aim, stays where you spray it, not effected by the wind, sunglasses do not stop the effects. You can not throw the foam back at someone. The foam melts on contact. It covers the face completely. My personal choice.

 

[public servant]

My personal experience is with First Defense, Fox and Freeze CS/OC. Defense sucks. It makes my eyes water and makes me sneeze. It does burn a bit. Freeze burns something awful and is like sucking your breath away. You literally cannot breathe. Fox is like unleashing the fires of Hell. Go with Fox. Whatever you choose...stay away from foams and fogs. I have personally had the foam thrown back at me. It doesn't come back as a foam...more like a thick liquid...but it can be used against you if they scoop it off themselves quickly enough. Fogs can blow right back on you.

We went back to Defense because Fox was too wicked. Well...that and the fact they may burst into flames if you Fox them then Tase them. No comment.

 

[Agent 007]

My personal experience is with Defense, Fox and Freeze. Defense sucks. It makes my eyes water and makes me sneeze. It does burn a bit. Freeze burns something awful and is like sucking your breath away. Fox is like unleashing the fires of Hell. Go with Fox. Whatever you choose...stay away from foams and fogs. We went back to Defense because Fox was too wicked. No comment.

Big +1 on Fox. That stuff is EFFECTIVE.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

I inadvertently got some of the FOX on my hands and it burned like HELL for a good 4-5 hours , even after washing my hands for 20 minutes straight .

 

[public servant]

I inadvertently got some of the FOX on my hands and it burned like HELL for a good 4-5 hours , even after washing my hands for 20 minutes straight .

And do NOT get your hands wet after having Fox on them then go urinate. baaaaaad...very bad...

There's another story...probably can't be told here. Let's just say if you get Fox on your face...you want to be careful where you put it for a couple of days. If it gets wet...it reactivates. Enough said...

And if that's still too graphic...please delete. No problem. Just a warning...not on the can.

 

[public servant]

And while we're on the subject...what is the longest snot string anyone has seen on someone OC/CS'd?? It really opens up the sinuses!

 

[esrice]

Yep.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

Mine was a good 5-6 inches , but I was soon beaten by a guy with 8-9 easy .

 

[esrice]

Mine was a good 5-6 inches , but I was soon beaten by a guy with 8-9 easy .

 

[GlockRock]

We carry Fox at our Sheriff's Department. It is indeed wicked. I had to get sprayed by it and it was the worst pain I've ever felt. It made me feel like I was going to die by not being able to breathe. Before Fox we carried Defense and it was weak.

 

[public servant]

Mine was a good 5-6 inches , but I was soon beaten by a guy with 8-9 easy .

I find myself curious...yet afraid...

 

[tyler34]

I stick with OC sprays or OC pepper blends if needed, pepper IME just isn't as effective. and what should buy? this, just for the bling factor

Pepper Spray Rings | Self Defense Products

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

I find myself curious...yet afraid...

Someone asked about SNOT STRINGS PEOPLE !!! Guess I did leave that door wide open !

 

[public servant]

Someone asked about SNOT STRINGS PEOPLE !!! Guess I did leave that door wide open !

Thank God...I was afraid you were talking about...well...thank God...

 

[Marc]

Kimber guardian angel FTW

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbyWgjgF54]YouTube - GuardianAngel Kimber Lifeact @ DefendingWomen.com part 3[/ame]

 

[agentl074]

Sabre with military OC!