What would happen if denied....21st Century?

[greyhound47]

Perhaps the guys at 21st Century could tellus what their SOP is if the following were to occur.

What would happen if I came in to your store, purchased a gun or two covered by NFA, paid for them and the NFA paperwork, and was DENIED by the gov't to own these weapons. What now?

 

[Gamez235]

Nick, what did you buy from us?

 

[Jtgarner]

I read it as hypothetical...

 

[Davegrave]

I read it as a hypothetical as well. And an interesting one.

 

[greyhound47]

Totally hypothetical. I am asking because you are the only class 3 dealer I buy from.

 

[revsaxon]

One of the delealers I buy from has a 10% restocking fee, don't know about the rest...

 

[greyhound47]

Any class III dealers? Hello?

 

[greyhound47]

Hmmmm. This was simply a question I thought of before ordering a suppressor. The lack of response is telling me that there is something of concern here. IF it is simply a 10% restock like mentioned above that would be understandable but the silence here is deafening.

 

[hotrodtba]

You will get your $200 transfer back from NFA, eventually. I've read online it takes almost a year for a refund.

As far as 21st Century goes, I would call the shop and ask to speak to Jan, Jahred or Dave and ask what the policy is.

 

[curraheeguns]

Hmmmm. This was simply a question I thought of before ordering a suppressor. The lack of response is telling me that there is a dirty secret here. IF it is simply a 10% restock like mentioned above that would be understandable but the silence here is deafening.

Well I am a little confused, first you only address 21st Century with your question because they are "the only class 3 dealer I buy from" and now I check back and you accuse other NFA dealers of holding "dirty little secrets".

Anyway, I have no dirty little secrets, I have just never had to deal with the issue, so......SSNFA's Policy is:

#1- If you are denied it is because you lied on your Form 4 questions and you knew you were a prohibited person, thus you committed a felony from the get go.

#2- If the can was a special order and not something I normally stock I will sell it for you at normal commission and refund your money after it sells minus the commission.

#3- If it is something I stock I will refund your money less a $75.00 fee (which is the same as my transfer fee) since I did the same amount of paperwork as a transfer. Even though it was all for nothing.


I am pretty comfortable saying the the Beech Grove Firearms policy is pretty close to this same thing if not more strict.

 

[tradertator]

Sounds more than fair to me.

 

[Westside]

Sounds more than fair to me.

I agree with that. And as soon as my gun funds are replenished I will be purchasing my first NFA item.

 

[jedi]

#3- If it is something I stock I will refund your money less a $75.00 fee (which is the same as my transfer fee) since I did the same amount of paperwork as a transfer. Even though it was all for nothing.

Is your transfer fee of $75 for all firearms? Or just the NFA stuff?

 

[curraheeguns]

Is your transfer fee of $75 for all firearms? Or just the NFA stuff?

NFA stuff. I don't deal in any title 1 guns.

 

[Britton]

My dirty secret is not that dirty and really not a secret. We have this thing called a 5 year sale coming up on Saturday and we are extremely busy with it. Evidently it has pissed some dealers off in the Fort Wayne area. Anyways, we will post our policy in the future, just simply too busy right now.

 

[patience0830]

hang tough, britton

My dirty secret is not that dirty and really not a secret. We have this thing called a 5 year sale coming up on Saturday and we are extremely busy with it. Evidently it has pissed some dealers off in the Fort Wayne area. Anyways, we will post our policy in the future, just simply to busy right now.

Noli illigitum carborundum.

I'm not sure I can make the trip but I may be on my way back from Chicago the way my luck is running today. Waiting on an alternator for my truck.

 

[greyhound47]

Well I am a little confused, first you only address 21st Century with your question because they are "the only class 3 dealer I buy from" and now I check back and you accuse other NFA dealers of holding "dirty little secrets".

Anyway, I have no dirty little secrets, I have just never had to deal with the issue, so......SSNFA's Policy is:

#1- If you are denied it is because you lied on your Form 4 questions and you knew you were a prohibited person, thus you committed a felony from the get go.

#2- If the can was a special order and not something I normally stock I will sell it for you at normal commission and refund your money after it sells minus the commission.

#3- If it is something I stock I will refund your money less a $75.00 fee (which is the same as my transfer fee) since I did the same amount of paperwork as a transfer. Even though it was all for nothing.


I am pretty comfortable saying the the Beech Grove Firearms policy is pretty close to this same thing if not more strict.

Don't be so sensitive. You're policy sounds quite reasonable and it is, after all, the first definitive response I have heard. I thought this was something I could get a quick answer on and when none was forthcoming I started wondering why. That is all.

If I am going to order a can or SBR or whatever I just want to know what my exposures are. I heard a nightmare scenario recently where the buyer is taking a pretty severe drubbing on restocking charges and just wanted to make sure when I order I do not get myself into a similar jackpot.

I do have one more question though. In reference to point #1, are you saying that everyone who applies will be approved regardless of reason as long as he/she is not a felon or otherwise prohibited person?

 

[greyhound47]

My dirty secret is not that dirty and really not a secret. We have this thing called a 5 year sale coming up on Saturday and we are extremely busy with it. Evidently it has pissed some dealers off in the Fort Wayne area. Anyways, we will post our policy in the future, just simply to busy right now.

What has pissed off dealers in fort wayne? I am confused.

 

[DownByTheTracks]

What has pissed off dealers in fort wayne? I am confused.

This: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...niversary_sale/159520-sale_list_and_info.html

(Note: I'm not pissed....)

 

[mjrducky]

What has pissed off dealers in fort wayne? I am confused.

I'm guessing its the deals he's offering. They probably can't or don't want to match him. Besides he'll take away their sales in doing so when they all head south.