Whats your PD Ammo for 12 Ga

[Mr Evilwrench]

#1 actually has the greatest cross sectional area per weight of any shot, but it's not very common. 00 buck is real common, and stacks nicely in a 12ga shell. It's like 9 or 15 .380s per shot. I have an SX3 with 11+1 of 2-3/4s. That's like 108 .380s, nine per trigger pull, and it can fire as fast as an M2. Talk about a wall of lead; there's nothing else you can carry in your hands that will put it out like that. No SMG can compare.

 

[Coach]

Federal PD132 or LE132. Both are 8 pellet 00buck in Flitecontrol wads. They hold VERY tight patterns and have low recoil. I have also used Hornady's Critical Defense and it performs on the same level as the Federal. For a guy starting out, I'd say try some of each and make your decision on what works best in YOUR gun. I have a thousand or so rounds of the Federal on-hand so I'm not likely to switch to the Hornady any time soon...

Does the 8 pellet 00buck have the same tendency to have one pellet be a flier or does the 8 pellets hold a tighter pattern?

What are your thoughts on #4 shot instead of 00 buck?

 

[VUPDblue]

the 8 pellet loads pattern like slugs for me out to 50 feet or so. they have less tendency to throw pellets like the 9 pellet loads do out of my gun. I don't see the throwing with the hornady loads either....

I don't really like #4 for a SD load because I prefer the weight of the 00 pellets and the pattern density I get from them in the Flitecontrol wad.

 

[churchmouse]

Remington #2 Nitro Express. A bit spendy but it has so much bang for the buck.

 

[cburnworth]

I got his when I bought mine Wolf, but if you would like some exotic shells.

 

[tgallmey]

PDX1 just cause I bought em Im usually a 00 buck guy. Usually my 10 gauge sits with me and not the 12s but thats different

 

[nipprdog]

I got a can of it this week, $99 from ammuntion to go.

Then I found out that cheaper than dirt has it for $89.

2-FEXM12700AC - Ammo 12 Gauge Federal XM127 2-3/4" 00 Buck 9 Pellets 1325 fps 175 Round Ammo Can

I haven't tried it out yet. Maybe tomorrow.

Tried it today with some surprising results.

I compared with some other Federal ammo that I've had for about 15 years(bought it when I bought my Mossberg 500). Can't find any numbers on the boxes, but it's labeled 12ga 00buck tactical, reduced recoil. Here's 2 shots at about 12 yds;

Now here is 2 shots with the new XM127OOAC;

Tighter grouping with the new stuff.

 

[sheriff125]

Tried it today with some surprising results.

I compared with some other Federal ammo that I've had for about 15 years(bought it when I bought my Mossberg 500). Can't find any numbers on the boxes, but it's labeled 12ga 00buck tactical, reduced recoil. Here's 2 shots at about 12 yds;

Now here is 2 shots with the new XM127OOAC;

Tighter grouping with the new stuff.

thanks for posting!

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

PDX1 just cause I bought em Im usually a 00 buck guy. Usually my 10 gauge sits with me and not the 12s but thats different

I was just about to ask everyones opinion of the PDX1's ... They throw consistant patterns ... The only thing i worry about is the slug going through multiple townhouses

 

[nipprdog]

thanks for posting!

I forgot to ask.....................

Does anyone know if this ammo has the flight control wad that VUPDblue refered to?

Both wads of that ammo left a clear, and distinct hole in the cardboard. Unlike the other two, that keyholed.

Thanks!

 

[tgallmey]

I was just about to ask everyones opinion of the PDX1's ... They throw consistant patterns ... The only thing i worry about is the slug going through multiple townhouses

Yea that worries me too, but 00 buck would be around the same I think maybe a few less townhouses but still far less than most handgun ammo.

 

[jblomenberg16]

Here's some good info on Shotguns vs. Walls.

The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1

 

[gearhead101]

Here's some good info on Shotguns vs. Walls.

The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1

Great info, thanks!

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

Here's some good info on Shotguns vs. Walls.

The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1

Good to know indeed ... fave line:


"4. I "racked" the shotgun several times during the tests, and no bystanders lost control of their bowels.
Conclusion: Racking a shotgun will not make the bad guy faint."

 

[Hookeye]

I load my 870 with extra hunting stuff.
First shot is a 3" mag #4 turkey load, the rest low recoil foster slugs 2 3/4".
Maybe not the best but I think doable........have yet to have it put to the test.

 

[Hookeye]

Never understood the "rack the slide for warning" nonsense.

I'd make sure my gun was good to go first, and THEN maybe give a verbal warning.

 

[nipprdog]

Tried it today with some surprising results.

I compared with some other Federal ammo that I've had for about 15 years(bought it when I bought my Mossberg 500). Can't find any numbers on the boxes, but it's labeled 12ga 00buck tactical, reduced recoil. Here's 2 shots at about 12 yds;

Now here is 2 shots with the new XM127OOAC;

Tighter grouping with the new stuff.

Ok, saw I took the two shells apart to see the difference. While there were only minor differences, they are enough to cause an group size gap between the two.

On the left is the older round, and on the right is the XM12700AC.

Both had similar white, granular filler. The balls on the left seem to be copper or brass. I'm guessing the other ones on the right are lead, since they won't stick to a magnet.

The other diffence is in the white wad behind the balls;

Maybe that's what helped shrink the groups.

 

[VUPDblue]

the ones on the left are copper washed lead. Neither of those are Flitecontrol loads.

Notice that the Flitecontrol wad doesn't open from the front end like traditional wads. Flitecontrol wads have fins at the rear that retard the flight of the wad instead of fins at the front of the wad that peel back letting the shot spread out.

 

[nipprdog]

the ones on the left are copper washed lead. Neither of those are Flitecontrol loads.

Notice that the Flitecontrol wad doesn't open from the front end like traditional wads. Flitecontrol wads have fins at the rear that retard the flight of the wad instead of fins at the front of the wad that peel back letting the shot spread out.

Thank you, sir. I did a little googling yesterday, and found out that the newer load didn't have the Flightcontrol wad. But, I was curious as to the group size difference.

I might be shooting on Saturday. If so, I'll try to shoot the XM12700AC at 50' to compare group size with your Flightcontrol groups.

If so, I'll post the results.