Why all the hate on .40

[BigMoose]

I hate 40 because the internet told me to...

Wait what? LOL

Who drug this thread up.

Well let me say again 40S&W sucks!

9mm bullet development has taken any performance benefit away from it.
It costs more.
And if its going to cost more, you might as well go 10MM... Hi point now has 10MM pistols and carbines.

 

[firecadet613]

9mm bullet development has taken any performance benefit away from it.

This, right here. HUGE developments in 9mm have all but killed the 40...

 

[88E30M50]

9mm bullet development has taken it from inadequate to good enough. That same development has taken .40 from good enough to great and .45 from great to still great.

It's funny to hear the 9mm guys keep reassuring themselves about their life's choices. Yes, yes, your little 9mm is a good caliber. After all, it's not the size but what you do with it, right?

All said in good fun.

There's room for all calibers in the world.

 

[Gunaddict]

I have to say I like the .40 S&W as well. I like all calibers really and think they all have their own niche. Have not ventured into 10mm yet, but I am sure I will assimilate just fine.

 

[loudgroove]

I have to say I like the .40 S&W as well. I like all calibers really and think they all have their own niche. Have not ventured into 10mm yet, but I am sure I will assimilate just fine.

I'm thinking the 10mm will be my next purchase. lol

 

[TLHelmer]

I'm thinking the 10mm will be my next purchase. lol

So many choices!

 

[BigMoose]

I'm thinking the 10mm will be my next purchase. lol

10mm is awesome. It is the only automatic commonly available pistol caliber I would trust to take a lot of North American big game with.

That is where 10mm shines. Because there are other things then two legged weasels that need shootin sometimes. it does things on bigger animals that I would never trust 9,45, or 40 to do.

Yes you will actually have to track down 10mm truly loaded to the high end of 10mm spec. I just saw two texas boars slammed down hard last weekend with Underwood 10mm loads from a Hi Point carbine.

The Caliber war was over as soon as 10mm came out.

 

[loudgroove]

10mm is awesome. It is the only automatic commonly available pistol caliber I would trust to take a lot of North American big game with.

That is where 10mm shines. Because there are other things then two legged weasels that need shootin sometimes. it does things on bigger animals that I would never trust 9,45, or 40 to do.

Yes you will actually have to track down 10mm truly loaded to the high end of 10mm spec. I just saw two texas boars slammed down hard last weekend with Underwood 10mm loads from a Hi Point carbine.

The Caliber war was over as soon as 10mm came out.

I'm seriously looking at the Springfield 10MM XDME 3.8 COMPACT.

 

[DadSmith]

I'm thinking the 10mm will be my next purchase. lol

That's the ticket.

 

[YoungMilsurpGuy]

I'm seriously looking at the Springfield 10MM XDME 3.8 COMPACT.

A 10mm springfield compact? Really?

Why go with such a short barrel length you aren't gonna take full advantage of 10mm power. Might as well get a .40 or .45 in that case

 

[loudgroove]

A 10mm springfield compact? Really?

Why go with such a short barrel length you aren't gonna take full advantage of 10mm power. Might as well get a .40 or .45 in that case

Yeah for CC. And most likely will get a full size one down the road. And I do have both .40 and .45 already.

 

[88E30M50]

A 10mm springfield compact? Really?

Why go with such a short barrel length you aren't gonna take full advantage of 10mm power. Might as well get a .40 or .45 in that case

You could argue that the shorter barrel benefits from 10mm power to achieve velocity faster.

 

[DadSmith]

You could argue that the shorter barrel benefits from 10mm power to achieve velocity faster.

357mag in a snubnose does improve the velocity over a 38 special.
It's usually around 200-300fps more velocity depending on weight of bullet used.
That could be the difference between a hollow point expanding properly or acting like a fmj.

If it's for bear defense it will definitely give you deeper penetration with a Hardcast bullet.

So even if it's a shorter barrel the benefits of running full power 10mm loads in it will definitely make a difference vs 40S&W. You can run a 40S&W at +p or +p+ to achieve that velocity. But that might not be to good on your 40S&W handgun.
Still going to be hard to beat handloaded 10mm or Underwood/Buffalo Bore ammunition with a 40S&W in a 3.8" barrel.

 

[Ghostface]

You could argue that the shorter barrel benefits from 10mm power to achieve velocity faster.

A 10mm is always going to have at least a 200 fps (full power ammo) advantage over a .40 regardless of barrel length. I just ordered a P320 XTen Comp and it has a 3.8 inch a barrel, it’ll be my first 10mm. I wanted one since I first fired a friends delta elite in 1990…

 

[loudgroove]

A 10mm is always going to have at least a 200 fps (full power ammo) advantage over a .40 regardless of barrel length. I just ordered a P320 XTen Comp and it has a 3.8 inch a barrel, it’ll be my first 10mm. I wanted one since I first fired a friends delta elite in 1990…

My thinking is. The right tool for the job. If CC is the job, you need a compact. If carrying around in bear country is the job. You need a full frame. If both are the job, buy both. lol Most compacts seem to fit my hands better than full frame. That is if the grips are long enough. I must say though, I haven't held a 1911 in .45 that I didn't like. But over all my G3c in .40 not only fits my hands better than most of what I own, I really enjoy shooting it also.