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    UAW On Strike

    Thousands of UAW Hoosiers to join nationwide strike against GM

    Wondering how many INGOers are affected by this?
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    GM was preparing for negotiations when they closed a plant. I believe they did it last time too. They play games when it's time to negotiate a contract. SSDD.
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    I think the games are aimed more at the union members. "We fought hard - just ignore the fact that we're stealing from you".

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    I have several family members and two close friends who work for the GM truck plant here in Fort Wayne, I even had a job for myself out there at one time. My one buddy can not stand the UAW. He is not happy as he is losing his overtime. My other buddy says the strike is for all of the temps who they feel should be permanently hired. To be fair, they are working for less money and do not have the benefits of the standard GM employee. Well that is noble of the UAW, wanting what is only fair to these poor temp workers. . . it has zero to do with the UAW wanting more of someones paycheck. As I was told this morning by friend number two, GM is having record profits, they need to share the wealth.

    Who knows, maybe I am wrong. But the stories I hear from friends and family out there does not make one have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the UAW, the locals anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bee View Post
    I have several family members and two close friends who work for the GM truck plant here in Fort Wayne, I even had a job for myself out there at one time. My one buddy can not stand the UAW. He is not happy as he is losing his overtime. My other buddy says the strike is for all of the temps who they feel should be permanently hired. To be fair, they are working for less money and do not have the benefits of the standard GM employee. Well that is noble of the UAW, wanting what is only fair to these poor temp workers. . . it has zero to do with the UAW wanting more of someones paycheck.

    Who knows, maybe I am wrong. But the stories I hear from friends and family out there does not make one have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the UAW, the locals anyway.
    I was raised in a UAW family. Most all of them. Lever pulling mindless robots. But the job took care of me and the siblings. It also made for a large group of brain dead mindless lever pulling robots. Dem lever that is.
    I worked at the plant for a shift and a half. Took no longer than that to see the politics of dancing. Found the door and went home. This fits some people like a glove. But not me. If you are a free thinker and a self motivator with skills the free market has a place for you.

    I broke from the mold and was pretty much ostracized from that side of the family. As time wore on it became clear that was really no big deal.
    You should have heard them scream when -O was elected. OMG what a pack of hateful animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bee View Post
    I have several family members and two close friends who work for the GM truck plant here in Fort Wayne, I even had a job for myself out there at one time. My one buddy can not stand the UAW. He is not happy as he is losing his overtime. My other buddy says the strike is for all of the temps who they feel should be permanently hired. To be fair, they are working for less money and do not have the benefits of the standard GM employee. Well that is noble of the UAW, wanting what is only fair to these poor temp workers. . . it has zero to do with the UAW wanting more of someones paycheck. As I was told this morning by friend number two, GM is having record profits, they need to share the wealth.

    Who knows, maybe I am wrong. But the stories I hear from friends and family out there does not make one have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the UAW, the locals anyway.
    From each according to their ability. To each according to their needs. Where have I heard that before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bee View Post
    I have several family members and two close friends who work for the GM truck plant here in Fort Wayne, I even had a job for myself out there at one time. My one buddy can not stand the UAW. He is not happy as he is losing his overtime. My other buddy says the strike is for all of the temps who they feel should be permanently hired. To be fair, they are working for less money and do not have the benefits of the standard GM employee. Well that is noble of the UAW, wanting what is only fair to these poor temp workers. . . it has zero to do with the UAW wanting more of someones paycheck.
    Nevertheless, the still make good money for a factory job.

    As I was told this morning by friend number two, GM is having record profits, they need to share the wealth.
    Shades of socialism there.
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    something...something...hand that feeds you.

    If the employees who make an hourly wage as agreed up on want a greater 'share of the profits' then they should get some skin in the game and buy some stock; that way they can, you know, get a greater share of the profits like those people who have already invested in the company. If all they really intend to do is suck the life out of the company (for their own greed and benefit) they can laugh all the way to the unemployment line.
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    I've heard a little bit about the issues and I don't like to pre-judge whether a strike is warranted or wise. There will be negotiations ans strikes from time to time and everyone will have their complaints.

    I did hear a few things. For instance- one issue is "affordable healthcare". I'll try to keep a straight face. I would like to know what the average GM-UAW worker pays on a monthly basis for their own healthcare and what the benefits are. I have a feeling it will be spit-take worthy. One UAW guy I know (Ford) is a big advocate for "Medicare for all". I wonder if he understands what he would be losing.

    Another issue I heard about is trying to get GM to allocate products (vehicles) to plants so that they don't shut down.....brilliant. Striking to try to entice GM to keep your plant going- building no cars to try to build cars. I get it- the unspoken arguments was to bring plants back from Mexico or Canada....but until the U.S. plant builds the product in an economically viable way, good luck. It used to be that you could count on American workers to turn out a better product faster, justifying the higher labor cost than the foreign counterpart. I'm afraid that this advantage does not exist to the extent it used to. It's not just manufacturing techniques, foreign workers are getting better and American workers just don't hold much of an advantage anymore.

    Anyhoo, no matter what anyone says, it's wages and benefits- it always is. GM will pay more than it used to and the UAW will get something for the worker to show it has a purpose....and will keep complaining nonetheless. It's their job.

    Personally, I wouldn't want to lock myself into a job that ensures that I will be a cog and the cogs with more time in the machine will always get treated better even if they suck at being cogs....but that's me. Let's face facts, for a lot of people, that's as good as it's ever going to get. To them- I say, I hope this all works out for you.

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