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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    The libertarian party cannot win at this time. We are a split nation at the moment. Any reduction in the GOP vote will cause the socialist party to win. It's simple math. Timing is everything.

    I will vote against socialism however I can. I'm not a stubborn hero....just realistic.
    Realistic gets us to the same place just at a slower pace. Enough stubborn heroes might actually change something. Then again that might just be a youth and inexperience thing, to believe we could actually change course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    I'd take Gary Johnsons policy positions over Trumps or Clintons every time. Would you not?
    So much needs done in the libertarian camp? Implying not as much needs done in the GOP or Dem camp?
    Oh for cripe sake. That is a diversionary tactic if ever I have seen one. Gary Johnson is a stooge. Billary is a deviate non-moral psycho and Trump is....well, he is Trump. I did say the entire system is a joke in so many words.

    I also asked "What do we do now" and this is no answer.
    Johnson is no leader. He has zero. Maybe some ideas but nothing else. There is no platform. Nothing. Hell man I have ideas but I am no leader. Many in this forum have some really good ideas but again, leaders. Nope.

    You put it out there and I am merely looking for a solid answer and this is not it.

    JMHO. But....???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    The libertarian party cannot win at this time. We are a split nation at the moment. Any reduction in the GOP vote will cause the socialist party to win. It's simple math. Timing is everything.

    I will vote against socialism however I can. I'm not a stubborn hero....just realistic.
    This is unfortunately the reality of what "IS" and the 3rd party is not a reality...........Yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    Realistic gets us to the same place just at a slower pace. Enough stubborn heroes might actually change something. Then again that might just be a youth and inexperience thing, to believe we could actually change course.
    When I was a much younger man I held these same ideals. Then the reality of what actually runs this country set in. We do not vote for those that hold the strings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    Realistic gets us to the same place just at a slower pace. Enough stubborn heroes might actually change something. Then again that might just be a youth and inexperience thing, to believe we could actually change course.
    The socialist party will applaud your heroism....I will not.

    And yes, I believe we can make a difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    The socialist party will applaud your heroism....I will not.

    And yes, I believe we can make a difference.


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    The crony capitalists pulling the GOP strings appreciate your loyalty.
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    I am just glad we are all in agreement that the braces are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I am just glad we are all in agreement that the braces are bad.
    You may look like a nerd for a while, but when you get them off and your teeth are all straight you will be glad you had them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    The corny capitalists pulling the GOP strings appreciate your loyalty.
    At some points in these conversations you make a lot of sense. Good solid points. But this one just does not pass the litmus.And yes, those titans of industry and power are pulling the strings. They always have. All of this is by design. And it will take a concerted and well organized effort to put the train back on the tracks. But which set of tracks. That is the real issue. What direction will the new voters take this country.

    Gary Johnson would be another puppet of the machine if and when he ever realized his desires. -0 was a puppet. Not sure about Bush but he was beholden to those that put him in the big boy chair. They all are. With out the money they are just also rans.

    Call us old farts cynical if you will. But having watched all of this transpire it has become pretty clear at least to me that what I used to know is no more and will not return. There is change on the horizon. Once us old farts are gone our voices will be gone as well. The AOC's and Bernies, the snake oil salesman have the mush brained progressives in tow. The Muslims are here. And they have a plan. They are united. So many factions want to take the helm. Gary Johnson is not the man to stand this down. I am not sure it will be.

    But not to give up. I have 9 G-daughters and 5 great G-kids to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    At some points in these conversations you make a lot of sense. Good solid points. But this one just does not pass the litmus.And yes, those titans of industry and power are pulling the strings. They always have. All of this is by design. And it will take a concerted and well organized effort to put the train back on the tracks. But which set of tracks. That is the real issue. What direction will the new voters take this country.

    Gary Johnson would be another puppet of the machine if and when he ever realized his desires. -0 was a puppet. Not sure about Bush but he was beholden to those that put him in the big boy chair. They all are. With out the money they are just also rans.

    Call us old farts cynical if you will. But having watched all of this transpire it has become pretty clear at least to me that what I used to know is no more and will not return. There is change on the horizon. Once us old farts are gone our voices will be gone as well. The AOC's and Bernies, the snake oil salesman have the mush brained progressives in tow. The Muslims are here. And they have a plan. They are united. So many factions want to take the helm. Gary Johnson is not the man to stand this down. I am not sure it will be.

    But not to give up. I have 9 G-daughters and 5 great G-kids to think about.
    Many good points! What i do not understand is why many are blind to see what is happening and how their apathy will actually hurt the USA. The socialists have had a plan for years and have been patient with its implementations. They are united, they are patient and they are edging closer to their dream daily. The muslims have a plan also and have been patient. They have somehow gained grace with many Americans, in spite of 9/11 and the obvious other actions. The GOP, well, are stagnant. They have given up their strength in exchange for some self righteous image they believe they have. And then you have Trump. Very rough around the corners and yet, very effective in bringing out the reality of who we are up against - on either side of the aisle. Trump, a definite sight for sore eyes with his anti-establishment what is exhibited in is lack of political savvy. A welcome change, yet many of his supporters are seemingly abandoning ship, because he needs to play politics from time to time.

    What I don't understand is how blind must one be to see that the nay-slayers are playing right into their plan. They are so happy to hear all the negative talk coming from the right, about Trump, NRA, this or that! The socialists love it. The muslims love it. A no vote for Trump is a vote for the anti-American parties that will take power from all of us; we all know their plan. A third party vote is ridiculous because it will again, take away a vote from Trump. I don't get it.

    I will vote for Trump again. I may not like all he does. I may not like all the twitters. I may not like some of his decisions. I DO KNOW that I will vote for him because at this time, in the year 2020 we will have anti-americans doing their best to implement socialism or sharia law or both. I know the anti-americans will for certain do everything they can to steal my constitutional rights. I truly believe we are living in a time of great concern. We MUST do whatever we can to preserve our constitution NOW, the civil way so we do not have to worry about our children and grandchildren having to FIGHT for their freedom.

    It's up to all of us. It is no longer about "me" but rather about the children and grandchildren. They deserve better. They deserve my very best to help prevent the worse.
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