Alaska man arrested at Fair for holding Impeach Obama sign?

[beararms1776]

I do hear them say it's private property but then another patron says it's public property.

 

[Woodsman]

...Where is Jackson and Sharpton when you need them? Unbelievable!

They're in DC protesting Glen Beck and the niece of Dr. King for being on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

 

[sj kahr k40]

where in the video was he told to leave? at what time mark? i didnt see it or hear it. btw i dont have an alchohol problem the cops have a mental problem. they cant tell the difference between a moving vehicle and a parked one. i learned that without going to the academy.

At the very beginning the security guard tried to tell him it was private property, but he refused to listen and started screaming at guys doing their jobs.

I'm sure they asked him to leave but you can't hear it over him screaming public access

 

[beararms1776]

The guy holding the sign is obviously a mental patient. It's for his own good.

I don't see where's he's being mental. Loud maybe but not mental. Just because he likes the color red and you like blue doesn't make him mental. Different maybe but not mental. Maybe everyone who likes red should move to another Country and leave you to your own demise.

 

[beararms1776]

At the very beginning the security guard tried to tell him it was private property, but he refused to listen and started screaming at guys doing their jobs.

I'm sure they asked him to leave but you can't hear it over him screaming public access

Right. But another patron tells them it's public property.

 

[sj kahr k40]

Right. But another patron tells them it's public property.

But that person is wrong, it is in fact private property, I'm sure security knew it was private property.

 

[beararms1776]

But that person is wrong, it is in fact private property, I'm sure security knew it was private property.

One says public one says private. Who really nows. We don't.

 

[sj kahr k40]

One says public one says private. Who really nows. We don't.

Actually we do

Alaska Politics Blog : "I have free speech!" (UPDATED) | adn.com

 

[public servant]

where in the video was he told to leave? at what time mark? i didnt see it or hear it.

Watch the video between 0:03 and 0:09. And actually listen to it. He is told at least twice by what are apparently agents of the owner that it is private property.

According to the fair spokesman the grounds are private property. He was told to leave. He didn't. Then he went to jail. Same as he would have on my property. You have no rights on my property. Besides the right to get your ass kicked off it.

Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Obama protester arrested at Alaska State Fair

 

[public servant]

I don't see where's he's being mental. Loud maybe but not mental. Just because he likes the color red and you like blue doesn't make him mental. Different maybe but not mental. Maybe everyone who likes red should move to another Country and leave you to your own demise.

What he is...is a dumb *** that believes he has the right to do whatever he wants...where ever he wants. He doesn't.

 

[beararms1776]

They did the right thing being he was on private property. He should have listened. It was hard to say just from the video.

 

[E5RANGER375]

public servant. so if someone is tresspassing on my property I can use the exact same force as the mall cops used on this guy? Serious question.

 

[beararms1776]

Actually we do

Alaska Politics Blog : "I have free speech!" (UPDATED) | adn.com

Great story. They were right and so are you. He clearly wasn't going to leave peacefully.

 

[Que]

This is a sad display!

 

[public servant]

public servant. so if someone is tresspassing on my property I can use the exact same force as the mall cops used on this guy? Serious question.

Could you? Sure you could. Would it bite you in the ***? Probably when you applied handcuffs. In reality...there was nothing excessive in their attempt to remove him. They attempted to escort him from private property. He decided he wasn't going. They put him on the ground.

What does Alaska law allow? I have no idea. One account I read stated the security personnel worked for a private firm. Were they comprised of off duty LEO? I have no idea. If they weren't LEO I'd have rather seen them wait for the troopers.

My personal opinion is that if you step on someone's private property and they ask you a couple of times to leave and you refuse...you'll probably get what you have coming. But that is nothing more than my personal opinion.

I hate that a "State Fair" is held on private property. That is absurd. I believe several Indiana county fairs are however. I also hate that the Indiana State Fair doesn't allow law abiding citizens the opportunity to protect themselves. You couldn't pay me to go there unarmed. I know too many of the patrons.

 

[PatriotPride]

thats what you get when you hire dumb asses to be cops. you get dumb ass results. I would have loved to see the crowd just converge and kick the crap out of the security guards.

I couldn't agree more. Assault an innocent person, prepare to be assaulted yourself in that person's defense. It's as clear-cut as it can be.

 

[public servant]

I couldn't agree more. Assault an innocent person, prepare to be assaulted yourself in that person's defense. It's as clear-cut as it can be.

Do you mean the criminal that in Indiana would have been trespassing?

 

[E5RANGER375]

Could you? Sure you could. Would it bite you in the ***? Probably when you applied handcuffs. In reality...there was nothing excessive in their attempt to remove him. They attempted to escort him from private property. He decided he wasn't going. They put him on the ground.

What does Alaska law allow? I have no idea. One account I read stated the security personnel worked for a private firm. Were they comprised of off duty LEO? I have no idea. If they weren't LEO I'd have rather seen them wait for the troopers.

My personal opinion is that if you step on someone's private property and they ask you a couple of times to leave and you refuse...you'll probably get what you have coming. But that is nothing more than my personal opinion.

I hate that a "State Fair" is held on private property. That is absurd. I believe several Indiana county fairs are however. I also hate that the Indiana State Fair doesn't allow law abiding citizens the opportunity to protect themselves. You couldn't pay me to go there unarmed. I know too many of the patrons.

thanks for your answer

 

[public servant]

thanks for your answer

No problem. Had it been property owned by the State of Alaska...then my feelings change dramatically. But in this case it wasn't. It would be no different than him standing in my yard or yours and refusing to leave.

I still give him credit for the message he was delivering...either way.

 

[Armed Eastsider]

Did anyone else notice the trooper asked the 2 morbidley obese rentacops if they were OK while the old man screamed in pain?

I have a feeling the old man is a Vietnam vet, just a guess.