2013 Legislative session

[KLB]

Now that is AWESOME!

 

[Bill of Rights]

Now that is AWESOME!

Credit for the creation of the animation in that image goes to INGO member Henktermaat. He animated it for me when I had it as my avatar a long while back.

 

[dansgotguns]

That is awesome! Is this the character from the "im just a bill" movie/musicsl thing??

 

[KLB]

That is awesome! Is this the character from the "im just a bill" movie/musicsl thing??

Yutes!

Yes it is. Watch it above

 

[DaKruiser]

Update on HB 1563, SB 181 ( auto knives) has been added to it and its looking promising to be signed into law.

Please write and call your State Reps and ask them to support this bill!

http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2013/PDF/HCCF/CC156302.001.pdf

 

[turnandshoot4]

Ok, help me out here.

I got my letter from my senate rep, Charbonneau and he said SB 199 was dead in the senate. If the house passed 1563, does it go back through the senate? Will we be legal to hunt with suppressors?

 

[DaKruiser]

Ok, help me out here.

I got my letter from my senate rep, Charbonneau and he said SB 199 was dead in the senate. If the house passed 1563, does it go back through the senate? Will we be legal to hunt with suppressors?

Yes, HB1563 removes the wording that makes it illegal to use a suppressor to hunt.

It has been passed by both Houses and is currently listed as being in Conference Committee. You can follow it the the Indiana General Assembly page. There's only a few days left for this to get done, please write and get others to do the same.

Indiana General Assembly

 

[DownByTheTracks]

I just spoke with Rep. Van Natter's office. HB1563 passed in the Senate conference committee, and has to be passed in the House conference committee. He is a co-author of the bill and has to reason to believe that it will die in the House. Hopefully by Friday it will be bound for Governor Pence's desk!

 

[Bill of Rights]

HB 1563 just passed the House 77-20! On to Gov. Pence's desk!



Blessings,
Bill

 

[DaKruiser]

HB 1563 just passed the House 77-20! On to Gov. Pence's desk!



Blessings,
Bill

thanks Bill of Rights for the update, I was just looking to see if anything happened with it today!

 

[KEHO]

This is awesome!!!

 

[jason867]

Is there a time limit for him to sign it?

Is there any chance he'd refuse to sign it?

HB 1563 just passed the House 77-20! On to Gov. Pence's desk!



Blessings,
Bill

 

[Bill of Rights]

Is there a time limit for him to sign it?

Is there any chance he'd refuse to sign it?

There is, in both cases.

From Art. 5 of the IN State Constitution:

... Section 14.
(a) Every bill which shall have passed the General Assembly shall be presented to the Governor. The Governor shall have seven days after the day of presentment to act upon such bill as follows:

(1) He may sign it, in which event it shall become a law.
(2) He may veto it:

(A) In the event of a veto while the General Assembly is in session, he shall return such bill, with his objections, within seven days of presentment, to the House in which it originated. If the Governor does not return the bill within seven days of presentment, the bill becomes a law notwithstanding the veto.
(B) If the Governor returns the bill under clause (A), the House in which the bill originated shall enter the Governor's objections at large upon its journals and proceed to reconsider and vote upon whether to approve the bill. The bill must be reconsidered and voted upon within the time set out in clause (C). If, after such reconsideration and vote, a majority of all the members elected to that House shall approve the bill, it shall be sent, with the Governor's objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered and voted upon, and, if approved by a majority of all the members elected to that House, it shall be a law.
(C) If the Governor returns the bill under clause (A), the General Assembly shall reconsider and vote upon the approval of the bill before the final adjournment of the next regular session of the General Assembly that follows the regular or special session in which the bill was originally passed. If the House in which the bill originated does not approve the bill under clause (B), the other House is not required to reconsider and vote upon the approval of the bill. If, after voting, either House fails to approve the bill within this time, the veto is sustained.
(D) In the event of a veto after final adjournment of a session of the General Assembly, such bill shall be returned by the Governor to the House in which it originated on the first day that the General Assembly is in session after such adjournment, which House shall proceed in the same manner as with a bill vetoed before adjournment. The bill must be reconsidered and voted upon within the time set out in clause (C). If such bill is not so returned, it shall be a law notwithstanding such veto.
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(3) He may refuse to sign or veto such bill in which event it shall become a law without his signature on the eighth day after presentment to the Governor.
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(b) Every bill presented to the Governor which is signed by him or on which he fails to act within said seven days after presentment shall be filed with the Secretary of State within ten days of presentment. The failure to so file shall not prevent such a bill from becoming a law.
(c) In the event a bill is passed over the Governor's veto, such bill shall be filed with the Secretary of State without further presentment to the Governor, provided that, in the event of such passage over the Governor's veto in the next succeeding General Assembly, the passage shall be deemed to have been the action of the General Assembly which initially passed such bill.
(History: As Amended November 7, 1972; November 6, 1990)....

So in other words, for him to refuse to sign would have no effect, it would still become law. The only way it would not is if he actively vetos it, and even then, it can still be passed into law. If it is presented to him and he vetos it after the final adjournment, the Constitution seems to me to say that next year's General Assembly will have to consider and re-vote it.

Were I guessing, I would guess that that situation is exceedingly unlikely.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Right, no pocket veto in Indiana.

Very high chance of him signing within few days (cannot see it happening tomorrow or Friday as he is jammed). I would think Monday.

Great day for our side. Did not get everything we wanted but we'll be back in the long session for more of the loaf!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

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[Smokepole]

That makes some sense to me. You ever work at legislative services.

Problem is the Legislature's idea of common sense doesn't usually coincide with the populous'.

 

[brotherbill3]

HB 1563 just passed the House 77-20! On to Gov. Pence's desk!



Blessings,
Bill

thanks Bill of Rights for the update, I was just looking to see if anything happened with it today!

Not quite yet - but almost and shoudl be done today

- Senate version Conference Bill was withdrawn - they need / should be voting .. today (actually as I type this it is on the schedule for 9:30) ...

Sen. version approved had different language on Hunter Orange than the 1 the house approved. why ... But I expect it will pass.

 

[DaKruiser]

Not quite yet - but almost and shoudl be done today

- Senate version Conference Bill was withdrawn - they need / should be voting .. today (actually as I type this it is on the schedule for 9:30) ...

Sen. version approved had different language on Hunter Orange than the 1 the house approved. why ... But I expect it will pass.

Thanks for the update brotherbill!

 

[brotherbill3]

Thanks for the update brotherbill!

De Nada ...

I've become a something of a legislative altertist ...
I try to stay altert & up to date on on all these legislative hoops.


BTW ... I have heard voting on this in the IN State Senate at 1:30,
but that is unconfirmed.

 

[DaKruiser]

50-0 vote in the Senate, now it's off to Governor Pence's desk!