Any body else with IBS?

[hornadylnl]

so whats the deal do a lot of people have abs, out there I haven't heard much about it. I have a friend that has it but he dosn't talk much about it. just that he cant eat spicy food

It's basically your insides having a mind of their own. Strange thing is that if I eat real mexican food, it helps my system.

 

[hornadylnl]

My belief is that IBS is just another name they threw out there for a general disorder. It seems that nowadays, everyone is suffering from some disorder or syndrome. I believe the symptoms are real. The problem is finding out what is causing it and I don't believe it is the same for everyone. To say that IBS is it's own disease would be saying that 1-10 are the symptoms and A-D are the exact causes.

 

[Hoosier8]

I am telling you. Read my long post. There are testimonials of people that have cured their Krohn's disease with the SCD diet which is radically worse than just IBS.

I didn't mean to put the blame on splenda alone. I just used it as an example of all the crap that is in our food now. Everything is processed and so full of preservatives that it can't be good for us.

hornadylnl, didn't think you were and I agree with you.

 

[mikea46996]

I can be an irritating butthole sometimes does that count?!?!?!

J/K

I had a mild case but I seem to have grown out of it, garlic, onions, and dairy still get me every once in awhile.

 

[Hoosier8]

I don't really know what is wrong with your
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That is the result of not figuring out what is really wrong with you.

You do know that doctors, given all of their training and knowledge, are still "practicing" medicine? If you do, then you will understand that everything is still not written down in stone. There is plenty more to discover. Tell your kids if they still can't figure out what to do with their lives.

 

[SteelersFan]

I am telling you. Read my long post. There are testimonials of people that have cured their Krohn's disease with the SCD diet which is radically worse than just IBS.



hornadylnl, didn't think you were and I agree with you.

Crohns is a autoimmune disease so basically your own immune system attacks your gut causing inflammation. I don't see how diet could help that.

 

[Boilers]

It's basically your insides having a mind of their own. Strange thing is that if I eat real mexican food, it helps my system.

Yes, with me TOO. I can eat spicy salsa and I do GREAT with it.

 

[jennybird]

Bentyl. Try it. It works if taken correctly. Bentyl - Dicyclomine - Frequently Asked Questions

 

[Boilers]

I will discuss that with my doc.

and reduces the amount of stomach acid produced.

I don't have this problem because they severed my stomach nerve and as such the mechanism that triggers 90+% of my stomach acid production is shut down. Not sure how much that would play or would have played into even more severe symptoms.

This worries me:

Tell your doctor if you have ever had any of the following conditions:

• Congestive heart failure

Are they saying this is linked to IBS? Funny, because my heart pounds/hammers with my symptoms. Anyone else?

 

[deer hunter]

My wife and I are in a nutrition business called Reliv. We have seen alot of people get relief from IBS and many other health ailments by taken the Reliv health supplements. Proper nutrition can help many health problems, but it is hard to eat healthy, that is why there is a need for supplements. If anyone would like more info, please contact me. I am not here to promote our business but I want to help people with their health problems.

 

[jontheturboguy]

Jenny Bird, already tried the bentyl. Makes me feel "high" so to speak. Enough that I don't feel right driving a vehicle while on the crap so I stopped taking it. It doesn't help with my problem any ways.

Some one asked about what IBS-D feels like. Well for me, I can be sitting there with friends eating dinner. And about half way through I get really bad indigestion. My stomach starts doing flip flops, and you can hear it making sounds and bubbling. Then, you can actually feel the process going through your intestines. WHAM! RED ALERT! You know you have minutes to find a bathroom.

What you eliminate is all sorts of interesting colors with a lot of fluid.

Recently I (3 weeks ago) was put on Creon 20. Its the 3 emzymes your pancreas & gal bladder produce to break down greens, oils, fats & protiens. The stuff worked for about 2 weeks, but this 4th of July weekend, it gave up. Gave up as in I hadn't gone to the restroom in 3 days. JOY! But when I did 4th of July night, epic explosions. Sunday was a total disaster.

Now Im here at home feeling - well - like crap.

Something I did notice while I was on the Creon-20 is the fact that I could drink beer. Before, if I drank 1/2 of a miller light or just about any beer, I was lit. Lit to the point of passing out - fast asleep.

Hoosier8. I think the DR is on to something, although I think yeast could be the culprit.

Around November I was put on some pretty strong antibiotics. Not only did my sinus infection disappear, but something neat happened. My IBS was gone and I was normal!

As soon as the antibiotics were out of my system, I was back to the same routine. No diary, no red meats, nothing fried, and just about any thing else that was tastey.

Sometime after December, I got a flu bug. I was sick for about 4 days, violently throwing up and eliminating any thing I tried to put down. I know there was NOTHING in me. I could drink water, and 10 minutes later, I could eliminate clear fluid.

After my system had "purged" itself of every thing that could have been in my GI tract, I was king for 2-3 months. I could eat any thing I wanted. Red meats, dairy, any thing. I could even eat a Whopper without having a whopper-tunity afterwords. It was great.

Then around feb/april it all started again. Its gotten worse since may.

 

[Hoosier8]

Crohns is a autoimmune disease so basically your own immune system attacks your gut causing inflammation. I don't see how diet could help that.

You state this as fact when it is only one of the theories.

Crohn’s disease is an ongoing disorder that causes inflammation of the digestive tract, also referred to as the gastrointestinal (GI) tract. Crohn’s disease can affect any area of the GI tract, from the mouth to the anus, but it most commonly affects the lower part of the small intestine, called the ileum. The swelling extends deep into the lining of the affected organ. The swelling can cause pain and can make the intestines empty frequently, resulting in diarrhea.

Several theories exist about what causes Crohn’s disease, but none have been proven. The human immune system is made from cells and different proteins that protect people from infection. The most popular theory is that the body’s immune system reacts abnormally in people with Crohn’s disease, mistaking bacteria, foods, and other substances for being foreign. The immune system’s response is to attack these “invaders.” During this process, white blood cells accumulate in the lining of the intestines, producing chronic inflammation, which leads to ulcerations and bowel injury.

Crohn's is an intestinal inflammatory disease. IBS has similar results but does not include inflammation of all layers of the intestine as Crohn's does. How the body reacts to the irritants could be the difference between Crohn's and IBS.

The viscous cycle starts with bacterial overgrowth, then and increase in bacterial by-products and mucus production, which injures the small intestine surface which impairs digestion of disaccharides which leads to malabsorbtion of disaccharides and induces more bacterial growth with the complex carbs not digested and ready to feed the bacteria and round and round it goes. Elimination of disaccharides (complex carbs) starves the bacteria and allows the intestine to start healing.

I have seen how a reduction in carbs has reduced the symtoms in my friend, but since she will not go the whole diet route, she will still suffer. Since her intestines are injured, other things like nuts and fiber are very painful. Others have gone on the SCD diet, radical at first, until healing occurs, usually a couple of years, then start re-introducing other foods to test if it is OK. People with Crohn's disease, Ulcerative Colitis have gone on this diet with great success.

If you are waiting for a miracle drug that will make it easy for you, I do not think it is coming soon, if ever, so I suggest you quit nay-saying and look into another possible cure for this problem. Check out the book and SCD diet. What do you have to lose besides a very uncomfortable disease?

 

[Hoosier8]

Something I did notice while I was on the Creon-20 is the fact that I could drink beer. Before, if I drank 1/2 of a miller light or just about any beer, I was lit. Lit to the point of passing out - fast asleep.

Hoosier8. I think the DR is on to something, although I think yeast could be the culprit.

Beer is illegal in the SCD diet because the yeast used in fermenting beer do not do a complete job and leave isomaltose units from the malt.

 

[Hoosier8]

Looking up Splenda, which is also not allowed in the SCD diet. Even though it is labeled 0% carbs, it has maltodexrin, which is a carb.

One has to understand the laws of labeling in order to determine what they are getting. For instance, any product with maltodextrin in it can state it is a zero carbohydrate product - even though maltodextrin is 100% carbohydrate. Why you might ask? Because the human body cannot digest maltodextrin - but the bacteria in our guts *can*. The same is true with soy. There are indigestible carbohydrates (by humans) in soy products so they are not required to be in the Total Carb label... However, the labels do not have to include the carbs that can feed bacteria... and bacteria have an amazing ability to digest almost any carbon based molecule.

The SCD diet is so restrictive that many people are not willing to try it, but I am convinced that it works. There is a wealth of information on the web of people using this diet and what you can eat and what you should avoid. People initially lose weight on the diet until their intestines start to heal.

I also read somewhere that 1 in 10 people have some form of IBS! That is allot of people but if the diet thing is true, then our over abundance of high carb diets would certainly help explain the numbers.

Ain't the internet grand?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

A disgusting cure for crohn's
BBC NEWS | Health | Parasitic worm hope for Crohn's

One of the studies I read think that the human body is so adapted to having parasites, that the lack of them in the modern world cause the immune system to over respond.

 

[hornadylnl]

A disgusting cure for crohn's
BBC NEWS | Health | Parasitic worm hope for Crohn's

One of the studies I read think that the human body is so adapted to having parasites, that the lack of them in the modern world cause the immune system to over respond.

I don't discount that either. Today, we overuse disinfectants. Everywhere you go, you see people using germx and other crap and we wonder why we no longer have the ability to fight off common illnesses. Every time someone gets a cold or the flu, they go to the doctor to get antibiotics and we wonder why we have strains that are resistant to them. When we were kids, we played out in the dirt and ate it. Now, we sanitize it before we let the kids in it if at all.

 

[rhino400]

I thought for the longest time that this drug AcipHex was for IBS. My thinking was based solely on the name. I guess I was mistaken.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I don't discount that either. Today, we overuse disinfectants. Everywhere you go, you see people using germx and other crap and we wonder why we no longer have the ability to fight off common illnesses. Every time someone gets a cold or the flu, they go to the doctor to get antibiotics and we wonder why we have strains that are resistant to them. When we were kids, we played out in the dirt and ate it. Now, we sanitize it before we let the kids in it if at all.

I don't discount it either. But the idea of purposely swallowing parasites justs turns me off a bit. I think George Carlin put it best in his show You are all diseased. I can't find a link to the clip but here is a transcript.

Caution NSFW lots of bad written language.(Standard Carlin)
Mind Droppings: George Carlin - Fear of Germs

And while not growing up swimming in the Hudson I did grow up swimming in Lake Michigan in the 70s makes whats there now look like pure spring water. My ex's mom was a clean freak sanitizing everything, while I grew up in a normal or slightly dirty home (single parent who worked two jobs) I remember one time in particular my SO and myself and her family all came down with the same bug I was over it with minor discomfort in under a day, they were laid up in bed for 4-5 days praying for death.

 

[Turtle]

Not sure what I.B.S. stands for? But I looks like sumtim my wife gets. Some call it PMS.... But I.B.S. sounds like a better name for it. lol

 

[Boilers]

To ME, my problems feel like this:

Go to Disney.
Eat a BIG, BIG, GREASY MEAL.
Ride the teacups for about an HOUR.
Now, get off the ride and try to enjoy ANYTHING about existence at that point.
I want to BARF, lie down, have headache, close my eyes, not talk, go curl up somewhere.