Hoosierdood
Grandmaster
Just so we're clear. I'm right. State is wrong.
I like the cut of your jib.
Just so we're clear. I'm right. State is wrong.
Sooo where does it say they can "run" the ltch. How is showing the pink paper not enough?
Sooo where does it say they can "run" the ltch. How is showing the pink paper not enough?
Sorry but my post wasn't the one full of fail. You are comparing apples and oranges. Driving a car is not the same as carrying a gun. The courts have established that a LEO cannot randomly pull you over to check your papers. You have to be observed violating an ordinance first. It sure would be nice if they have that same courtesy to gun owners but they haven't. Apples and oranges.
In Indiana it is a crime to carry a handgun.
Whether you or I like it or not, the officer has every right to verify that we are properly licensed to carry a handgun. I never said I agree with it. And whether anyone likes it or not, OCing IS probable cause under the current law. (And I am an avid OCer)
Just so we're clear. I'm right. State is wrong.
i wonder this every time someone shares his "I was disarmed" story and it ends with the LEO telling them not to re-load until some later point in time.BTW, what would Fred have done it you had told him, "Screw you, I'm putting the bullets back in it right now. Want to watch me?"
Thats their problem. If they want it differently they should tell thier legislatures. Law says I have to have a pink card, not that I have to have one and them go check it out. What's the point of the pink card if they are gonna run our papers....
Hoosierdood;5102018 The officer detained the OP for as much time as was necessary to verify his LTCH. Once the LTCH was verified said:Please explain what caused the reasonable suspicion the officer must have had to have a need to "verify" the LTCH.
The OP handed it to the officer. That is the end of the story, or should be.
the only way the jbt knows of verifying that the LTCH is valid is by running it (ie. calling it in) so jbt does have to "run it" so to speak.
In Indiana it is a crime to carry a handgun.
Whether you or I like it or not, the officer has every right to verify that we are properly licensed to carry a handgun. I never said I agree with it. And whether anyone likes it or not, OCing IS probable cause under the current law. (And I am an avid OCer)
Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty not "carrying a firearm is a crime unless you can prove you're doing so lawfully."Nope, Hoosierdood is correct.
The FAIL is on the part of our Indiana legislators for not repealing IC 35-47-2-24(a) which codifies that we may be presumed guilty and placing the burden of proof upon the licensee.