President Trump (What Can He Get Done?)

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  • K_W

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    I think he would be solid on 2A issues. I think he would politicize the court though. I really want the next justices appointed to be solid, no-name, no-baggage, no-drama, boring originalists. Just shut up and decide cases. Cruz just isn't that.

    Absolutely.
     

    jamil

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    De-funding of "sanctuary cities" would be a good start. Cancel exec orders regarding ICE border enforcement and deportation of the criminal aliens (at least the ones who broke MORE than just the immigration laws i.e Steinle killer, etc).

    I'm never a fan of using the threat of holding back federal funds as political punishment when it's liberals doing it to conservative states. I'm not going to change just because the sides have switched. If it's wrong, it's wrong regardless of ideologies.

    I think that clearly immigration laws are a constitutional federal power. And I think that disregarding those laws should have consequences. I'm just not sure what those consequences should be. Perhaps the federal government can sue the states or cities. Perhaps individuals who think they are harmed by illegals should be able to sue these sanctuary cities.
     

    oldpink

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    1) Spending. This guy is eager to spend our money.

    2) Unprecedented use of Executive "Authority". This guy relishes the power of the Federal government.

    3) An expansion, not reduction, of crony capitalism. This guy likes to pick "winners" and "losers".

    SCOTUS? I expect that list to change.

    Guns? I expect my rights to be infringed.

    Taxes? I expect them to go up.

    Controversy? I expect we'll see quite a bit.

    "We" got what "we" asked for...now we'll see what we really bought.

    Let me just say that I consider the whole "they're all crooks" claim from people as extremely lazy, the sort of thing that people say when they refuse to actually look into one politician or another, instead preferring to stay within their safe space.
    To actually believe that a President Trump would in any compare to a President Hillary Clinton, especially in matters related to the 2A?
    Please
     

    PaulF

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    Let me just say that I consider the whole "they're all crooks" claim from people as extremely lazy, the sort of thing that people say when they refuse to actually look into one politician or another, instead preferring to stay within their safe space.
    To actually believe that a President Trump would in any compare to a President Hillary Clinton, especially in matters related to the 2A?
    Please

    Yes.

    I actually believe that Trump can do as much damage to our gun rights as Clinton. I believe that if he is faced with a choice between my gun rights and his ego that he will choose his ego.

    I don't see any reason to believe anything he says. He flip-flops. He panders. He has a long history of not honoring his word or his obligations. He was a Democrat until he saw an avenue for victory as a Republican. I consider his election just as much a loss for America as if Clinton had been elected. I do not owe him my support, and I will not give it to him. I have been saying as much this entire election.

    I don't believe in "the lesser of two evils"...choosing either one is still only choosing evil.

    Clinton is bad for America...we agree on this point. Just because someone "isn't Hillary" doesn't automatically mean that person is a better than Hillary...only different. There a countless avenues to failure, it is my opinion that Trump merely leads us down a different path to failure than Clinton. At this point we will just have to see what he tries to do with his presidency.

    I never said they were all crooks. I have repeatedly said neither of these people should be given this power.
     

    oldpink

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    Yes.

    I actually believe that Trump can do as much damage to our gun rights as Clinton. I believe that if he is faced with a choice between my gun rights and his ego that he will choose his ego.

    I don't see any reason to believe anything he says. He flip-flops. He panders. He has a long history of not honoring his word or his obligations. He was a Democrat until he saw an avenue for victory as a Republican. I consider his election just as much a loss for America as if Clinton had been elected. I do not owe him my support, and I will not give it to him. I have been saying as much this entire election.

    I don't believe in "the lesser of two evils"...choosing either one is still only choosing evil.

    Clinton is bad for America...we agree on this point. Just because someone "isn't Hillary" doesn't automatically mean that person is a better than Hillary...only different. There a countless avenues to failure, it is my opinion that Trump merely leads us down a different path to failure than Clinton. At this point we will just have to see what he tries to do with his presidency.

    I never said they were all crooks. I have repeatedly said neither of these people should be given this power.

    I liked neither.
    Trump wasn't even my fifth choice.
    However, Trump never set up a private server to conceal nefarious activity from FOIA requests, putting classified documents on it for hostile foreign powers to access through hacking, and that's even before talking about her avid support of Obamacare and openly voiced intention to force a wholly government monopoly of healthcare upon us, and her well known anti-2A stance.
    When faced with a choice like that, the decision is easy.
    I'm a reluctant Trump voter, but I would be just as serious about seeing to it that all of us see to it that the never veers off in the directions that Obama has done or as Clinton would have done.
    To just sniffle and claim superiority by refusing to vote and hand the election to the sea hag may make a person feel principled, but it accomplishes nothing more productive that shooting yourself in the foot in the end.
    If you think that those of us who voted for Trump won't continue to exert pressure on him to do the right thing and scrutinize his every action, then you're not really listening to us.
     

    1DOWN4UP

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    So let me get this correct before we proceed............
    Going after the most corrupt couple in current politics (both un-convicted Felons) is going to be a bad thing.

    He has already been called Hitler etc. How can this even equate. He has already stated he would do this. They (the Clintons) need to be shut down. Period.
    Not an Anti-Dem statement just need that family ousted from the circles of influence and power.
    I agree with this 100 %.I would blow her off till say late January,when the present POtuS slithers out of the door,andthan go after her with pitchforks and torches. Forget the emails....The CF is the real meat and taters. You boys need to get a testosterone shot.....
     

    ru44mag

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    I liked neither.
    Trump wasn't even my fifth choice.
    However, Trump never set up a private server to conceal nefarious activity from FOIA requests, putting classified documents on it for hostile foreign powers to access through hacking, and that's even before talking about her avid support of Obamacare and openly voiced intention to force a wholly government monopoly of healthcare upon us, and her well known anti-2A stance.
    When faced with a choice like that, the decision is easy.
    I'm a reluctant Trump voter, but I would be just as serious about seeing to it that all of us see to it that the never veers off in the directions that Obama has done or as Clinton would have done.
    To just sniffle and claim superiority by refusing to vote and hand the election to the sea hag may make a person feel principled, but it accomplishes nothing more productive that shooting yourself in the foot in the end.
    If you think that those of us who voted for Trump won't continue to exert pressure on him to do the right thing and scrutinize his every action, then you're not really listening to us.

    Well stated.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    SCOTUS appointment
    Obamacare: repealed
    SCOTUS appointment
    Border security: wall or not we have a disastrous sieve at best on our southern border
    SCOTUS appointment
    Get rid of the oppressive regulations and government bureaucratic overreach. There are 94 million people not working in this country
    SCOTUS appointment
    Iran backroom deal: scrap it completely
    SCOTUS appointment
    Military/Law Enforcement: support these people, rebuild what has been torn down
    SCOTUS appointment
    Foreign policy: having a foreign policy would be a good start. get one that includes eliminating ISIS and rebuilding ties with allies such as Israel
    Did I mention SCOTUS appointment?
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    IF he doesn't try the Dictator route that the 2 previous administrations reverted to AND tries to work with ALL segments of America he MIGHT get a few things done.
    The horrible division this country is living through needs mended somehow. Of all the things I see happening to this country it's the most saddening and concerning to me.
    WTF happened to this country? We're Americans and should pull together instead of laying groundwork for more division. Let's hope for healing, prosperity, equal rights for all, and most importantly get back to the U.S. Constitution again.

    The divisions in our society are philosophic and, in a sense, moral, and no politician - especially Trump - is going to "change" them and "bring unity." Some great national disaster might accomplish that, but no politician this side of the Anti-Christ will do so.
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    Time for constitutional carry and to repeal the NFA. We run the presidency, HOR, and Senate. If not now, when?

    Don't forget that most legislation is going to have to get through the Senate with a 2/3 majority. The Dems may not be able to enact their gun-control agenda, but they certainly have enough votes to block pro-gun laws.
     

    churchmouse

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    The divisions in our society are philosophic and, in a sense, moral, and no politician - especially Trump - is going to "change" them and "bring unity." Some great national disaster might accomplish that, but no politician this side of the Anti-Christ will do so.

    A politician caused them to be worse. We have been set back 20 years and it was done with purpose.
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    Honestly, the absolute worst thing Trump could do, is go after the Clintons, by re-opening an investigation that is either complete, or surely will be by the time he is sworn in. If he does that, he will certainly draw comparisons to dictators who have persecuted political opponents. I'm betting, he will quietly let that go.

    The Clinton Foundation investigation is still on-going, and that's likely to be the biggie.
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    Do you have to be convicted of something before you get a pardon? Last time I checked Hillary, and the Clinton foundation have not been convicted of anything. If Trump decides to pursue further investigation, and it leads to a conviction.....Obama will be long gone and won't be able to save her ass.

    IMO...Trump should let any further investigation on Hillary and her foundation go, and concentrate on getting down to business, and making America Great Again.

    If I recall correctly, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon "for any crimes he may have committed."
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    I hope that Trump can get much done. More accurately, I hope he can get much UNdone:
    -- "waters of America" jurisdiction grab
    -- BLM land grabs
    -- ACA healthcare grab
    -- Sarbanes Oxley
    -- "wall st reform"
    -- SCOTUS replacements

    Personally, I don't care if we build the wall. I've not yet seen a wall that someone can't climb or dig underneath. We don't need a wall....

    ...we need dozens of MQ-9 Reapers on 24/7 patrol with patrolling with AGM-114s.




    JMO

    A nuclear minefield from San Diego to Brownsville. :)
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    I'm never a fan of using the threat of holding back federal funds as political punishment when it's liberals doing it to conservative states. I'm not going to change just because the sides have switched. If it's wrong, it's wrong regardless of ideologies.

    I think that clearly immigration laws are a constitutional federal power. And I think that disregarding those laws should have consequences. I'm just not sure what those consequences should be. Perhaps the federal government can sue the states or cities. Perhaps individuals who think they are harmed by illegals should be able to sue these sanctuary cities.

    How else do you enforce compliance with the law of the land, other than sending in federal marshals to arrest the respective governmental leaders of the so-called Sanctuary Cities and bring them to trial. And I'm not even certain that can be done legally.
     
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