My dog was attacked by a pit bull during a walk today -

[Tactically Fat]

She's got a nasty attitude but I'm not sure if she's bitten anyone. She's nasty toward other dogs and people to a lesser extent.

This the one that lives near me?

I bet that little dog LOVES the Weimaraner next door.

 

[JettaKnight]

I thought I would add this to the list of unrelated random incidents that do not prove anything about the breed that imitates the Energizer bunny and just keeps on going and going and going, but can't be blamed for its violent actions because it is really docile breed.

Pit bull mauls Petsmart worker during grooming

I know, it is just the poor owners. Perhaps this will motivate the owners in our forum to encourage others to be more tolerant of this misunderstood and abused breed.

Why the heck does she need a Go Fund Me campaign when the dog owners should be getting a second mortgage cover her expenses and more?!

 

[1911ly]

I thought I would add this to the list of unrelated random incidents that do not prove anything about the breed that imitates the Energizer bunny and just keeps on going and going and going, but can't be blamed for its violent actions because it is really docile breed.

Pit bull mauls Petsmart worker during grooming

I know, it is just the poor owners. Perhaps this will motivate the owners in our forum to encourage others to be more tolerant of this misunderstood and abused breed.

That dog should have been put down the first time it bit someone aggressively. There is a lot more to that story then what is being told. I would guess it was a rescue from a dog fighting that someone poorly/wrongly train it to be a defense dog. Some people should just never own dogs. I would not own a rescue pit.

I have had my Charlie for 6 years. He is a big baby. Totally useless as a watch dog. Never barks. Begs to be petted. We just got a Boxer/pit mix puppy. He is 7 weeks old. He is a snuggler. I met the mom (pit) and played with her for a while. She has the temperament of my Charlie. She is a lover. I don't have any worries on either of my dogs. They have a loving home.

 

[EricG]

Growing up on the westside of Chicago, Ive seen/met more than my fair share of pitbulls. They've always seemed on edge and really easily agitated. That and the constant tragedies like this kind of shaped my view of them. After moving from Chicago and the circle of people morphed, I began to run across some very mild mannered, playful pitbulls.

The variable, at least from my surface observation, were the "owners". For example, an associate of mine whom did several tours in Afghanistan and have some very colorful stories to tell is one of the most passive, non-violent guys that I know. Very humble dude that has a heart bigger than Texas, has two of the most lovable pits Ive seen. His dogs are the only pits I would allow approach me and get in my face. He is the pack leader and they exhibit that respect without any buffering.

Now....those guys back in the city? Cut from a different cloth....

 

[SMiller]

Pitbulls are good and white people are bad?

 

[T.Lex]

Pitbulls are good and white people are bad?

Wait. Wut?

 

[phylodog]

I thought I would add this to the list of unrelated random incidents that do not prove anything about the breed that imitates the Energizer bunny and just keeps on going and going and going, but can't be blamed for its violent actions because it is really docile breed.

Pit bull mauls Petsmart worker during grooming

I know, it is just the poor owners. Perhaps this will motivate the owners in our forum to encourage others to be more tolerant of this misunderstood and abused breed.

Awww, aren't you just the cutest little thang? The liberal anti-gun lobby could use you as a strategist, I'm not sure what you're making now but I'm betting they'd at least double your salary.

Actually I shouldn't limit it to just the anit-gunners. Practically any liberal cause would likely offer you good money.

 

[T.Lex]

Awww, aren't you just the cutest little thang? The liberal anti-gun lobby could use you as a strategist, I'm not sure what you're making now but I'm betting they'd at least double your salary.

Actually I shouldn't limit it to just the anit-gunners. Practically any liberal cause would likely offer you good money.

Putting the shoe on the other hand, though, I'm not sure comparing gun owners to "pitbulls" is a particularly good strategy....

 

[phylodog]

Why not? The same sensationalist tactics are used against each. I guess it's ok as long as it's something someone doesn't like though.

 

[T.Lex]

Why not? The same sensationalist tactics are used against each. I guess it's ok as long as it's something someone doesn't like though.

Are you really asking me why we, as gun owners, should not compare ourselves to a set of dogs that are lumped together and considered irrational and dangerous by the vast majority of Americans?

Do I really need to answer that?

Look. I get that some people, many people, proclaim insight into the "breeds" of dogs that get labeled "pitbull." Congtatuf'nlations. Tilt at the educational windmill to change the perception. Until then, perhaps this particular discussion could be furthered by accepting the obvious: certain dogs with certain hereditary traits act irrationally and dangerously.

 

[actaeon277]

Plenty of other people were attacked by non-pit bulls.
But, it's news when it's a pit bull.

And years from now, it'll be another type. Just like years before other dogs were "news".

 

[phylodog]

Bull****.

Certain dogs are capable of doing more damage than others. That does not make them evil or irrational as a breed, that makes people completely ignore virtually every other dog bite out there and focus on anything they can lump into the "pitbull" moniker. It would be nice if people would refrain from things they haven't the slightest clue about but they don't, it's fun to read about things, draw illogical conclusions from a known biased media and continue the panic.

I'm not comparing guns owner to dogs. I'm not equating the two. They are both demonized by people who don't have the foggiest idea about them and you have half of the population intelligent enough to recognize it for what it is and the other half who can't wait to lap up whatever BS they're fed and perpetuate it till the end.

Someone in this thread said pitbulls had to have the aggression trained out of them. That statement is so utterly ridiculous I cannot believe it was actually posted here. That's no different than the belief by the uneducated idiots that simply holding a gun makes people want to shoot other people.

 

[T.Lex]

Its human nature to generalize. All sorts of things.

Cops, gun owners, dogs that share certain traits and attack people for no reason.

 

[phylodog]

Believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss. You have plenty of company.

 

[T.Lex]

Believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss. You have plenty of company.

First, bull**** back at you for presuming to know what I believe.

Second, bull**** back at you for presuming I don't have my own experience with dogs, including the breeds at issue. Those experiences form the basis for what I believe: not all of them are bad, but all of them with those bloodlines are a greater risk than other bloodlines.

Finally, good luck with your efforts at educating people that things are not black and white. That's something I genuinely support.

 

[phylodog]

dogs that share certain traits and attack people for no reason.

Gee, my bad, what were you referring to?

 

[actaeon277]

 

[Route 45]

Believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss. You have plenty of company.

I don't see what you are so butthurt about. Pitbulls don't exist, so there's no way you could possibly own one.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

That dog should have been put down the first time it bit someone aggressively. There is a lot more to that story then what is being told. I would guess it was a rescue from a dog fighting that someone poorly/wrongly train it to be a defense dog. Some people should just never own dogs. I would not own a rescue pit.

I have had my Charlie for 6 years. He is a big baby. Totally useless as a watch dog. Never barks. Begs to be petted. We just got a Boxer/pit mix puppy. He is 7 weeks old. He is a snuggler. I met the mom (pit) and played with her for a while. She has the temperament of my Charlie. She is a lover. I don't have any worries on either of my dogs. They have a loving home.

Do you ever watch Pit Bulls and Parolees on Animal Planet? The folks on there have done wonders with pits from all different backgrounds, including dog fight operations. They really do great work. They also take in other breeds, and in fact I think they started out as just a general "animal rescue". They even take in cats.

https://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/pitbulls-and-parolees/

 

[T.Lex]

Gee, my bad, what were you referring to?

??

I'm referring to what I wrote. Dogs from certain bloodlines share certain traits and have a greater propensity than other bloodlines to attack people for no reason. Such dogs are commonly referred to as "pitbulls." Various certifying entities have adopted or created from wholecloth names for them. Those names are used to legally limit the breeds, but I will absolutely agree that those laws are more in the vein of "doing something for the sake of doing something."

Until there's some sort of DNA test to figure out whether an individual dog or line has the propensity for violence, I'm not sure there's a real answer on the legal side.

On the practical side, I know what to look for - and so do you.