The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[Alpo]

So, you equate a pseudo-socialist with a Neo-nazi?

Perhaps some time spent alone with your conscience is in order.

 

[BugI02]

Goose-stepping parades and Nazi candidates.

And Jamil doesn't think the optics are bad.

No, I am pointing out that Arthur Jones is as much an actual Nazi as Bernie is an actual Socialist. I did notice you were actually walking that back in #61, though

pseudo-Socialist and neo-Nazi

That doesn't mean things won't come out of the mouth of either worthy of the real thing, and both should be resisted (sans hashtag). But the current two are very pastel versions of the real thing, good mainly to feed the popular narrative of Republicans as KKK/Nazi/WS loving racists and Democrats as Russian fifth-columnist Free **** Army recruiters

 

[AtTheMurph]

Didn't the Democrats nearly (but for dirty dealing) run a Socialist candidate? For President!?

How quickly we forget (or, on to the next distraction)

Scandal free

Not only did they, but he won the election twice.

 

[BugI02]

Not only did they, but he won the election twice.

 

[jamil]

Goose-stepping parades and Nazi candidates.

And Jamil doesn't think the optics are bad.

Huh. I didn't know I said that. Let me check....

Huh. Nope. Didn't say anything about it. You must have been thinking of someone else.

 

[Alpo]

No, I am pointing out that Arthur Jones is as much an actual Nazi as Bernie is an actual Socialist. I did notice you were actually walking that back in #61, though

pseudo-Socialist and neo-Nazi

That doesn't mean things won't come out of the mouth of either worthy of the real thing, and both should be resisted (sans hashtag). But the current two are very pastel versions of the real thing, good mainly to feed the popular narrative of Republicans as KKK/Nazi/WS loving racists and Democrats as Russian fifth-columnist Free **** Army recruiters

Oh, I consider a Holocaust denier a full-fledged Nazi. But, since he wasn't alive in WWII, he's a next gen or NEO nazi.

There is no pastel Nazi. You either buy the schtick or you don't. If you buy it, papa shoulda used a prophylactic more often.

 

[indiucky]

Huh. I didn't know I said that. Let me check....

Huh. Nope. Didn't say anything about it. You must have been thinking of someone else.

 

[indiucky]

Oh, I consider a Holocaust denier a full-fledged Nazi.

I see a "Holocaust denier" as a dumb *** who has never read a history book......


"Nihilist??? Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism but at least they had an ethos...."

Walter Sobchak

 

[BugI02]

It's time

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[jamil]

Oh, I consider a Holocaust denier a full-fledged Nazi. But, since he wasn't alive in WWII, he's a next gen or NEO nazi.

There is no pastel Nazi. You either buy the schtick or you don't. If you buy it, papa shoulda used a prophylactic more often.

When you mislabel people it effectively waters down the stigma of that label, at least a little. They're simply anti-Jew. Are Islamists Nazis too?

 

[jamil]

Oh. And I think INGO is going to become the site with the most diverse collection of Selma photos.

 

[Alpo]

When you mislabel people it effectively waters down the stigma of that label, at least a little. They're simply anti-Jew. Are Islamists Nazis too?

You are looking for argument for argument's sake. He's a Nazi. New Nazi. Neo Nazi.

I'm done with this. Move on.

 

[jamil]

You are looking for argument for argument's sake. He's a Nazi. New Nazi. Neo Nazi.

I'm done with this. Move on.

No. I’m not looking for an argument. But I am surprised that I have to explain symmetry to you. A Nazi is pretty much always an anti-Jew, but anti-Jews aren’t always Nazis.


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[indiucky]

It's time

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I had not seen that one Bug...Thank you...Thank you very much....Or as Salma would say..."Muchos Gracias mi hermano."

 

[Alpo]

No. I’m not looking for an argument. But I am surprised that I have to explain symmetry to you. A Nazi is pretty much always an anti-Jew, but anti-Jews aren’t always Nazis.


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"The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones," Illinois Republican Party Chairman Tim Schneider said in a statement. "We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District."

 

[jamil]

"The Illinois Republican Party and our country have no place for Nazis like Arthur Jones," Illinois Republican Party Chairman Tim Schneider said in a statement. "We strongly oppose his racist views and his candidacy for any public office, including the 3rd Congressional District."

I’m not saying the person isn’t a Nazi. I’m saying being a Nazi makes the person a Nazi. If he’s a Nazi, he’s a Nazi. If he’s anti-Jew alone, that’s not necessarily a Nazi. You said you consider a Holocaust denier a full fledged Nazi. Logically that makes a radical Islamist a Nazi too.

 

[Alpo]

You are debating the meaning of words. With yourself.

Focus, grasshopper. Real world Nazi is a GOP candidate. That is bad news for the party and Illinois. If he gets elected, it is another toll of the bell.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Rand Paul is going on like a boss. He's not happy about this spending plan. Bring on the shutdown!

 

[Kutnupe14]

You are debating the meaning of words. With yourself.

Focus, grasshopper. Real world Nazi is a GOP candidate. That is bad news for the party and Illinois. If he gets elected, it is another toll of the bell.

Yeah he's a Nazi. It's nonsense to say otherwise. The has participated in Neo-Nazi rallies, celebrates Adolph Hitler's birthday, denies the Holocaust occurred, and was the leader of a chapter of a Neo-Nazi organization. Today, he was asked if he was a "Nazi," on CNN, and he simply said that he is no longer a member of any official Nazi organization. If he's not a Nazi, that question is answered with a simple "no."

 

[BugI02]

You are looking for argument for argument's sake. He's a Nazi. New Nazi. Neo Nazi.

I'm done with this. Move on.

Na·zi
ˈnätsē/Submit
noun
1.
historical
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
adjective
adjective: Nazi
2.
of or concerning the Nazis or Nazism.





Those are the only definitions. There haven't been real Nazis since 1945 (except a few who got there neck stretched in 1946). Jones (who was born in 1948) is not and has never been a member of the NSGWP, ergo he's not a Nazi. Jamil is right, you're conflating satanist with Satan - the difference is orders of magnitude