On the converse, I’ve seen folks who spent the money on quality parts that totally dick up the build, and they still had a pos. I’ve also seen factory built rifles with totally jacked up builds (PSA, castle nut backwards and staked, improper barrel alignment, incorrect pins, etc.). If it was as LEGO as everyone espouses, all companies could produce a quality product, and the Armed Services could drawdown an entire career field (45B in the Army) and leave it to the armorers (supply clerks), to fix everything. But hey, the web knows better.Most I've seen that don't work were from an off centered gas tube that bubba rammed through an improperly aligned barrel nut and it is binding up in the gas key. Some of the time though there is a problem with the parts they bought off of alibaba. If a person buys quality parts, it is just like legos. A lot of higher end handguards come with their own wrench with spacers and marked wrenches that do not require a torque wrench. Putting together a lower is silly easy. Especially if you use knipex plierwrench to just squeeze them into place. Seems a lot of grief of the online complainers comes from cheap parts, barrels improperly drilled, offset gas block, which will lead to an offset gas tube. I mean the mistakes people make putting their ar's together are no different than using a 2 block where you should have used a 3 or a 4 block. For new builders there are barrels that have an indent for the set screw even.
Look at majority of the standard 5.56 build fails, most are splattered with discount parts, blem recievers, blem bcg's, or trying to run some exotic spring and weight combo. Just because people choose to use crap parts doesn't make the process of assembly anymore difficult. Armorers are trained to deal with fails that may come from a variety of issues, that takes some skill and more specialized tools. Assembly with quality parts is super easy for someone that has a little bit of working knowledge with tools.
Ummm...and if I buy a high end build but it turns out to be jacked up, who is more likely to stand behind it? DD, BCM, Larue, LMT or the resident local build expert on the internet or the local gun show....
and if I buy a high end build but it turns out to be jacked up, who is more likely to stand behind it? DD, BCM, Larue, LMT or the resident local build expert on the internet or the local gun show....
You can fix it, but I don't want to eat replacing a $200 BCG that was out of spec.
Talking about buying a build off someone on the internet or gun show. Then having a problem.Uh, buy from a vendor with integrity so if you get an out of spec part you just send it back for a replacement? That's what I've done before
You can fix it, but I don't want to eat replacing a $200 BCG that was out of spec.
No I don't... that is why either I buy a complete build from a manufacturer I trust, or buy my own parts and put them together.You pay $200 for bcg's from sources you don't trust?
Why do you hate capitalism? Should the seller not be compensated for arranging the parts into an easy to purchase package?If I'm buying a used or home built AR, it's assumed that I'm just buying a collaboration of parts. More money for good parts in good condition. Less money for ham fisted or seasoned parts.
If the gun runs, it's a bonus.
Don't forget proper compensation for the time to write the ad and compile a proper parts list.Why do you hate capitalism? Should the seller not be compensated for arranging the parts into an easy to purchase package?
On the converse, I’ve seen folks who spent the money on quality parts that totally dick up the build, and they still had a pos. I’ve also seen factory built rifles with totally jacked up builds (PSA, castle nut backwards and staked, improper barrel alignment, incorrect pins, etc.). If it was as LEGO as everyone espouses, all companies could produce a quality product, and the Armed Services could drawdown an entire career field (45B in the Army) and leave it to the armorers (supply clerks), to fix everything. But hey, the web knows better.
You can fix it, but I don't want to eat replacing a $200 BCG that was out of spec.
Talking about buying a build off someone on the internet or gun show. Then having a problem.