I thought "hold a man accountable" was another way of saying... get married first.
Interesting NPR/PBS/Marist poll question with six-point scale on abortion views:
1. Any time in pregnancy - 18%
2. Only first two trimesters - 11%
3. Only the first trimester - 23%
4. Only rape/incest/mother - 29%
5. Only for life of mother - 9%
6. Never for any reason - 9%
I know you're not supposed to make it "black and white", but this would be about 47% against and 52% for, when you generalize it to reflect modern "accepted" ranges. Though the 1st trimester one could probably float a few percentages into the "against" category, in some circumstances.
This here is the problem with this issue. We are split as a nation, damn near down the middle. We will never, ever get consensus in the near or foreseeable future.
So how do we solve an issue that we cannot agree upon? The best way, in my opinion, would be to ignore the far ends because they will never be pleased unless it is exactly their way, and go with the huge middle.
That would boil it down to the first trimester, rape, or the life of the the mother. That will get 62% of the people on board. This is not a good way to do it, but pragmatically may be the "best" of many lousy solutions that most folks could live with.
C. Everett Koop was right when he said, (Paraphrasing here), "the problem with abortion is unwanted pregnancy. When we solve the unwanted pregnancy issue we won't have an abortion issue."
Regards,
Doug
Or...Novel Idea here (that existed up until Roe), we let the states do what they want and give people in each state their own say without an overriding national rule.
If abortion is a right to privacy issue, then Doctors should get to pay patients to blow them. Or I suppose the other way around.
Patients should get to pay doctors for whatever meds they want.
They should be able to conspire with patients to cheat insurance companies.
Of course that’s absurd. The right to privacy doesn’t give people the right to do illegal things with or without one’s own body.
Interesting NPR/PBS/Marist poll
4. Only rape/incest/mother - 29%
5. Only for life of mother - 9%
False answer. There is NEVER a reason to perform an "abortion" for the life of the mother. None. Never. Ectopic pregnancies can threaten mom's life, but there is a zero chance that pregnancy will result in a living child and may kill mom. Treating an ectopic is not an elective abortion.
maybe Im not understanding what you are saying....
in my experience, wife had HELLP and at 26 weeks the only way she would have lived another few hours was for the baby to be removed, or so we were told by a couple of doctors. Fortunately 26 weeks was old enough that modern NICU practices were able to save the baby; a couple weeks earlier and he likely wouldn't have made it or had life-long disabilities. A consult recommended abortion and our OB said time to deliver....
I'm in the #5 camp.... not because it's "ok" but because in life or death situations I don't think you should criminalize the very hard choices that have to be made in those scenarios, and I was oh-so-close to being in that scenario.
So either I'm mis-understanding your post or we were misled at the time by Drs...
-rvb
right? the lawsuit suing to block a conscience clause saying docs can't refuse to do an abortion for religious reasons...
It's my body and I can force you to do to me whatever it is I want. I have freedom over my body, you are my slave.
Ectopic pregnancies can threaten mom's life, but there is a zero chance that pregnancy will result in a living child and may kill mom. Treating an ectopic is not an elective abortion.