Do you like Windows 10?

[jamil]

Love win 10 . Something to remember is everything is super searchable. Need to open some software or an app? Just hit the start button and start typing what you want. Save you lots of time.

Oh. So it's like Spotlight, available on OS X since Tiger in 2005?

I don't think I've ever really heard anyone say they love windows. I've only heard phrases ending with variations of "sucks". Either "sucks" or "doesn't suck", usually alternating with releases.

 

[4651feeder]

Windows 7 doesn't die in 2020. They simply stop sending you patches. The system will continue running fine.

True, however when XP lost support most all of my online financial institutions no longer allowed access to accounts with WIN XP systems due to vulnerability.

Have activated WIN 10 Pro on several machines with either crashed HD or previous version upgrade in the past, EZ PZ.

However this month I bought a new laptop and while activating the WIn 10 registration, thought maybe Microsoft was gonna require a DNA swab before it was over as hard as they now try to link you to a machine.

 

[bwframe]

Change is hard. The longer you put it off the harder it is.

 

[Phase2]

Change is hard. The longer you put it off the harder it is.

That's why I recommend switching to Linux. If you are going to switch, why settle for third best?

 

[Phase2]

Likewise If I rip all the locks off of your doors the door will still open and shut, but your house can now be broken into with a simple turn of a knob. Without security patching you're much more open to malware and viruses.

Poor analogy. He isn't talking about removing security, but not upgrading. Many companies have forgone Win10 adoption for years because MS won't stop screwing with it. I left the Microsoft plantation years ago, don't run anti-virus software to bog down my system and hate the few times I actually have to visit Windows again. Taste the freedom!

 

[wtburnette]

Poor analogy. He isn't talking about removing security, but not upgrading. Many companies have forgone Win10 adoption for years because MS won't stop screwing with it. I left the Microsoft plantation years ago, don't run anti-virus software to bog down my system and hate the few times I actually have to visit Windows again. Taste the freedom!

The last part of what he said is spot on though and exactly the reason I finally upgraded. Running Windows without the ability to load security patches is extremely dumb. Flaws that will never be fixed will be exploited easily by malicious actors. AV/AM can only do so much. Most people are not technical enough to get by without AV/AM, let alone running an unpatched OS.

 

[ljk]

I heard the Win10 is a big Data Mining machine.

 

[PistolBob]

Windows 7 doesn't die in 2020. They simply stop sending you patches. The system will continue running fine.

The system will run fine, until it doesn't. Then you can go to backups and restore it or not. Windows 10 has been out since July 2015, so it's not like it's new or anything....it's just supported with security updates, patches, and technical support. You can always choose one of the 350+ versions of linux instead.

 

[WebSnyper]

The last part of what he said is spot on though and exactly the reason I finally upgraded. Running Windows without the ability to load security patches is extremely dumb. Flaws that will never be fixed will be exploited easily by malicious actors. AV/AM can only do so much. Most people are not technical enough to get by without AV/AM, let alone running an unpatched OS.

Running any OS that isn't still publishing security updates is extremely dumb. Anyone that thinks their choice of OS never needs updates is fooling themselves. The cyber threat landscape is ever changing. If whatever you are running is connected to any network, anywhere, there will be attackers working to exploit it.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Running any OS that isn't still publishing security updates is extremely dumb. Anyone that thinks their choice of OS never needs updates is fooling themselves. The cyber threat landscape is ever changing. If whatever you are running is connected to any network, anywhere, there will be attackers working to exploit it.

Yep, the only way to run securely with no AV or patching is airgapped. No foreign media, and no internet connection of ANY kind. They cant break/infect it if they cant get to it.

 

[Nevermore]

Poor analogy. He isn't talking about removing security, but not upgrading. Many companies have forgone Win10 adoption for years because MS won't stop screwing with it. I left the Microsoft plantation years ago, don't run anti-virus software to bog down my system and hate the few times I actually have to visit Windows again. Taste the freedom!

Fair enough, I honestly wasn't sure how to explain the idea of your computer being incredibly vulnerable precisely because of a lack of change (because hackers and thieves are always updating their tools to take advantage of holes in security) when the OS in question stops being updated. A better analogy would be sticking with outdated locks that can just be bump keyed over modern ones that have protection put in place to prevent that.

As for tasting the freedom, the truth is it takes time and effort to port on over to Linux and that costs me. I also play online games of various types with my family regularly, and switching 4 separate people and their different setups over to a less plug'n'play OS style just doesn't make sense for us. Windows is a good middle ground between the razor wire fence that seems to come equipped with all Apple products and the more intensive learning requirements of Linux. I'd complain about the endless data siphoning if my job didn't already require me to keep a ready made wiretap and geolocating device in my pocket courtesy of my cell phone.

 

[K_W]

I have used every consumer version of Windows since 2.0 and I have no complaints about 10. I feel it is the best version yet for general users.

 

[JollyMon]

I actually like windows 10. I have had no issues with it. Have to use it for work and the transition was realatively painless

 

[PistolBob]

I actually like windows 10. I have had no issues with it. Have to use it for work and the transition was realatively painless

According to Microsoft, in April 2019 Windows 10 was licensed on just over 800 million devices. It's pretty popular.

 

[russc2542]

And I heard the Indiana is going to get rid of Lifetime LTCHs. Seriously your friend did something wrong, I been running Win10 since they offer the upgrade, never had to change my login password, unless of course I want to change it.

"classmate" makes me think it may have been a school-imposed password change. I have the same on my work computer: mandated PW change every 90 days resulting in reduced security because we have to use a new password each time so people either use easy to remember numerical increments (password1, password2, password3) or write it down.

 

[JettaKnight]

I've heard my classmate say that his Windows 10 ask him to change his login password every month/two months,which makes him frustrated because he sometimes forgets or confuses them.

Is that a corporate PC?

 

[Cameramonkey]

"classmate" makes me think it may have been a school-imposed password change. I have the same on my work computer: mandated PW change every 90 days resulting in reduced security because we have to use a new password each time so people either use easy to remember numerical increments (password1, password2, password3) or write it down.

CSB: I work in IT and our CIO had a 3rd party come in and do a comprehensive security evaluation. One of their suggestions as part of the new tighter security policy; Minimum password length 16 characters, changed every 90 days, remembering last 10. (so you cant reuse) I actually laughed out loud when they read out that idea on the conference call as we were going over the results. "Yeah, thats not going to happen. That is a ridiculous suggestion that will lead to sticky notes under keyboards EVERYWHERE and will make our position LESS secure than it is today."

 

[WebSnyper]

"classmate" makes me think it may have been a school-imposed password change. I have the same on my work computer: mandated PW change every 90 days resulting in reduced security because we have to use a new password each time so people either use easy to remember numerical increments (password1, password2, password3) or write it down.

CSB: I work in IT and our CIO had a 3rd party come in and do a comprehensive security evaluation. One of their suggestions as part of the new tighter security policy; Minimum password length 16 characters, changed every 90 days, remembering last 10. (so you cant reuse) I actually laughed out loud when they read out that idea on the conference call as we were going over the results. "Yeah, thats not going to happen. That is a ridiculous suggestion that will lead to sticky notes under keyboards EVERYWHERE and will make our position LESS secure than it is today."

The common theme now in cybersecurity is for longer duration of passwords (if you can't get to a largely if not all passwordless environment) but making the passwords less guessable (not necessarily just complexity, but rather not common phrases, etc checked against a cloud provider database of common passwords, such as this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/az...tication/concept-password-ban-bad-on-premises ). Many enterprises are going or have gone to a year for password duration.

Windows 10 also allows the use of PIN and/or biometrics, etc rather than password for authentication if you choose to do so (biometrics never leave the device for those concerned about that).

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'd love to make changes to our security group policies... but apparently our major partner company says they want those dumb requirements.

I did get multifactor going at least, with regards to the user's Office logins... too many idiots following phishing sites and handing over their credentials.

Setting up MFA was a bit of a headache, but probably worth it in the long-run.

 

[eldirector]

I'd love to make changes to our security group policies... but apparently our major partner company says they want those dumb requirements.

I did get multifactor going at least, with regards to the user's Office logins... too many idiots following phishing sites and handing over their credentials.

Setting up MFA was a bit of a headache, but probably worth it in the long-run.

Worked with a customer recently that had static MFA tokens printed on their ID cards. User ID was also printed on the ID cards.

We invented a new term for them: suck-urity.