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  • drillsgt

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    Any failure at all.
    I want to know which rifle brands have 0 failures and run thousands of rounds, or at least hundreds without any kind of failures.
    Now if it's ammo related, and the ammunition is bad then we'll give a pass on the failure.
    I don't really consider a common malfunction as the same as a failure, a failure to me would be a key breaking or a firing pin, or an extractor, something related to the mechanical components. Something like a common malfunction, double feed etc. may not even be related to the rifle per se or related to routine maintenance like extractor springs, one you can just clear and move on but the other you have a gun down. With the basic training rifles that get used among thousands of Privates and thousands of rounds any issues were typically related to the old aluminum magazines or weak extractor springs.
     

    DadSmith

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    I don't really consider a common malfunction as the same as a failure, a failure to me would be a key breaking or a firing pin, or an extractor, something related to the mechanical components. Something like a common malfunction, double feed etc. may not even be related to the rifle per se or related to routine maintenance like extractor springs, one you can just clear and move on but the other you have a gun down. With the basic training rifles that get used among thousands of Privates and thousands of rounds any issues were typically related to the old aluminum magazines or weak extractor springs.
    Are you saying a $5000 AR will have the same malfunctions/failures as a $350 AR?
     

    Brad69

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    I have a SIG M400 that had to be sent back.
    Because I shot the barrel out after about 8,000 rounds.

    Never has malfunctioned but it throws brass into the next county.

    Last AR I witnessed break was a DD. Tigger spring broke, bad thing it was his duty rifle.
     

    ChalupaCabras

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    Every blue moon when I log back in, the first thing I see is ignorant / troll content like this.

    More than a few those brands are parts & accessory manufacturers not complete branded guns ... Quite a few others do little more than assemble ARs from parts made by other brands, sometimes in a lower "tier".... Then there is the bridge dwelling concept of $2,000 rifles being promoted as mid-tier.

    This crap is mixed up by pretenders and trolls to ruffle feathers.

    Ill see you all again in 6 months - can't wait to read the latest 'what gun for bear ' thread.
     

    NyleRN

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    Every blue moon when I log back in, the first thing I see is ignorant / troll content like this.

    More than a few those brands are parts & accessory manufacturers not complete branded guns ... Quite a few others do little more than assemble ARs from parts made by other brands, sometimes in a lower "tier".... Then there is the bridge dwelling concept of $2,000 rifles being promoted as mid-tier.

    This crap is mixed up by pretenders and trolls to ruffle feathers.

    Ill see you all again in 6 months - can't wait to read the latest 'what gun for bear ' thread.
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    Creedmoor

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    I have a SIG M400 that had to be sent back.
    Because I shot the barrel out after about 8,000 rounds.

    Never has malfunctioned but it throws brass into the next county.

    Last AR I witnessed break was a DD. Tigger spring broke, bad thing it was his duty rifle.
    It identifys as a M62 Valmet or if its German a HK93
     

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