30 days without electric?

[avboiler11]

 

[bwframe]

...My weakness.........hungry children. Screw mom and dad. Pound sand. Tell me any of you could turn away a hungry child. And if so teach me how to do that.

Give away anything and you (and more importantly, your family's) days will soon be numbered. People that couldn't be bothered to prepare will use the "anything to feed my kids." Be it right or wrong, your generosity will flag you as a source for more.

You need to be prepared to feed and arm those parents to work for you to feed their kids. They can be guards on your outer perimeter, maybe run a shovel or bucket brigade for the septic and burials. Possibly traders on that outer perimeter, maybe scouts into the neighboring communities?

 

[qwerty]

Read "One Second After" for a pretty good story about losing electricity.

Excellent referral. Bought it yesterday as a Kindle and audible book. Hope I can finish it before the power goes out.

 

[churchmouse]

What kind of capacity does that carry...???

 

[churchmouse]

Give away anything and you (and more importantly, your family's) days will soon be numbered. People that couldn't be bothered to prepare will use the "anything to feed my kids." Be it right or wrong, your generosity will flag you as a source for more.

You need to be prepared to feed and arm those parents to work for you to feed their kids. They can be guards on your outer perimeter, maybe run a shovel or bucket brigade for the septic and burials. Possibly traders on that outer perimeter, maybe scouts into the neighboring communities?

Good points.
We have enough heads to cover everything. My issue is the terrorists are friends with all the kids around here. That would be rough but you are correct.

I am still a sucker for little kids wanting treats. When the back yard is full of screaming kids having fun they know who to ask for a juicy or a sucker.

 

[boosteds13cc]

Get away from civilization... food shortages, crime, and disease from corpses will be the biggest issues.

Hour 1
Internet goes down
Stock market closes
Banks close, for safety
Credit/debit cards are useless
Cash is only means of commerce
Death toll in the 1000's from transportation accidents

Day 1
Public services like water, sewer, and gas service will begin to cease
FAA grounds all civilian aircraft

Day 2
Communications will break down after 48 hours as cell tower generators run dry and cellphones die
Public safety will be overwhelmed as police and fire resort to manual dispatch and hydrants dry up
Stores close due to lack of restock, inoperative payment and inventory systems
Looting of luxuries begins
Fires begin to burn
Schools closed

Day 3
Vital facility backup generators begin to run dry
Company headquarters close, permanently
FAA grounds all commercial air traffic
Looting of daily items begins
Martial law declared

Day 4
Hospitals close as refrigerated medicines and/or sanitized supplies run out and bodies begin to rot in morgues
Senior homes, prisons, and in-patient facilities run out of perishable food, release residents/inmates
Transportation will be impossible as roads, air, and sea ports clog with vehicles unable to refuel
Military bases over run with refugees
Cities are burning out of control
Primitive Diseases begin to spread
Death toll crosses 100,000
Body collection ceases

Day 5
Crime rampant, neighbors turn on each other as trade-able daily essentials and food run out
Cities out of drinkable water
US accepts foreign aid

Day 10
People begin dying from thirst
Primitive diseases rampant
Cholera deaths surpasses crime
China invades (probably)

Day 15
Death toll crosses 1 Mil.

Day 30
Mad Max

Reading this and im thinking to myself....damn its going to crap real fast....then I look around and think of all my neighbors....totally can see this happening

 

[churchmouse]

Reading this and im thinking to myself....damn its going to crap real fast....then I look around and think of all my neighbors....totally can see this happening

Especially if you are near any housing projects or Apts.

 

[10-32]

I'm packing all my stuff up in the company truck and heading to Yeager's house with my family.

If the truck/van is here at home, plans are to pack up the truck and head out to our friend's farm. It's equiped with 3 generators (two 7000watt and one 2200watt) 60 gallons of fuel and it's about 42' long with lift on the back. With most of the supplies packed into totes and having a two hand cart, it wouldn't take long to load most of it. The X-ray unit would take about 5 minutes to rip out of the truck. Our deep freezer would go in it's place. Alt vehicle plan, throw all the supplies and food into both our SUV's, empty deep freeze straped down to the top of my suv, and my honda gen with fuel on the rack that attaches to the hitch.

 

[bwframe]

Us rural folks have a large concern for all the city dwellers that have no real plan other than to "head for the woods."

It's amazing how many city folks think that Indiana has vast expanses of wilderness. That "wilderness" is often somebody's back yard.

Even if it's a big backyard, we have to be concerned for the "will do anything to feed my kids," crowd.

 

[hammerd13]

Another good read is "Lights Out" by David Crawford.

 

[churchmouse]

Us rural folks have a large concern for all the city dwellers that have no real plan other than to "head for the woods."

It's amazing how many city folks think that Indiana has vast expanses of wilderness. That "wilderness" is often somebody's back yard.

Even if it's a big backyard, we have to be concerned for the "will do anything to feed my kids," crowd.

Us City fellers with a plan have the very same concerns. Soooooo many people live hand to mouth from the drive through.
We have places we can bug out too. Thing about bugging out is have a clear path to do so. Once out of your home/property into the world your chances of making a clean break are greatly diminished. Total exposure.

 

[avboiler11]

What kind of capacity does that carry...???

600w of panels, into a 24V 215AH battery bank, with a 2000w inverter.

Enough to run a refrigerator, ceiling fans, lights, charge batteries, 15A power tools, etc.

I’ve got another 600w of panels to install sometime, which will help with low production (cloudy) days.

 

[churchmouse]

600w of panels, into a 24V 215AH battery bank, with a 2000w inverter.

Enough to run a refrigerator, ceiling fans, lights, charge batteries, 15A power tools, etc.

I’ve got another 600w of panels to install sometime, which will help with low production (cloudy) days.

Thanks.

 

[KittySlayer]

I get to tell my wife I told you so!

Our street was without power for a week and she really appreciated how our home life was relatively unaffected because of our (my) preps. She still rolls her eyes sometimes but is much more tolerant.

 

[bobzilla]

I’m not going anywhere. I know our place is the meet point for close friends. Genny runs an hour a day to refill water and run the fridge/freezer. Starts to stretch past 30 days and I start building homemade wind generators to supplement. Back yard becomes the garden. Line of site is almost a mile so you’re not sneaking up on us easily.

 

[churchmouse]

I get to tell my wife I told you so!

Our street was without power for a week and she really appreciated how our home life was relatively unaffected because of our (my) preps. She still rolls her eyes sometimes but is much more tolerant.

CKW (spouse) is totally on board and very helpful. Guess I am blessed.

 

[DadSmith]

So what I understand is to get out of the city to the country in a home, have a wood stove for heat or even cooking, a cistern, septic system, propane cook stoves with enough propane to cook with for at least a month, canned goods, dry foods, ammo, and firearms. Generator for power as needed and enough fuel to run it.

What kind of med kit? What do you have or need for such an event?

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

I’m not going anywhere. I know our place is the meet point for close friends. Genny runs an hour a day to refill water and run the fridge/freezer. Starts to stretch past 30 days and I start building homemade wind generators to supplement. Back yard becomes the garden. Line of site is almost a mile so you’re not sneaking up on us easily.

Automatic run or manual? Ours runs/exercises 1/week for 20 mins.

 

[Leadeye]

Us rural folks have a large concern for all the city dwellers that have no real plan other than to "head for the woods."

It's amazing how many city folks think that Indiana has vast expanses of wilderness. That "wilderness" is often somebody's back yard.

Even if it's a big backyard, we have to be concerned for the "will do anything to feed my kids," crowd.

This is something that I keep in the back of my mind as well although I live far enough out that doesn't concern me much. Most people arriving in my neighborhood for the first time are expecting to see guys like this and it discourages visits.

 

[olhorseman]

We were without power for almost 2 weeks after hurricane Matthew and it was only slightly uncomfortable. Since then we have added a PTO generator for the diesel tractor, 15kw of gas generator power, and fuel tanks to run them for several months during hurricane seasons.
Property is well guarded by us and our Dobermans. For food and water we have two gardens, chickens, a hand pump on our second well, stocked ponds, deer and squirrels are rampant along with a swamp with duck, geese, and hundreds of turtles.