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  • BehindBlueI's

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    Remember the CoP serves at the whim of the mayor and is generally his mouth piece. If you don't like what the CoP is saying, it's the mayoral race you need to focus on.
     

    4sarge

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    Remember the CoP serves at the whim of the mayor and is generally his mouth piece. If you don't like what the CoP is saying, it's the mayoral race you need to focus on.

    Correct, Many Chiefs are mere political ineffective tokens representing their Liberal Democrat Mayors. The IACP might as well be a wing of the Democrat Party.
     

    rhino

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    Bloomington, imagine that!
    But what the hell are they against. Indiana already honors gun permits issued from other states!!??

    Bwahaha, do these pinheads realize that Indiana already has national reciprocity?

    IC 35-37-2-21(b).

    What a stupid, moronic move.

    I think they're making a statement to the people who support their socialist-statist ideology.

    Were it up to those four, Indiana wouldn't honor out of state license and permits, nor have a license of its own. They'd be happy if no private citizens were allowed to keep or bear arms.
     

    Dr.Midnight

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    Doubt if any can be voted out. Liberal strongholds.

    I swear, Monroe county isn't all liberals loons and snowflakes. It's just one particularly dense area of the county dictates policy everywhere. Come to to Southern Monroe County on Christmas morning. It sounds like a WWII battle with all the folks trying out the guns they got as gifts.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    4.. so what percentage is that? Something pretty low.

    It was 0.04%. I'll have to find the link I used in my math on it, here's a blurb on the report:
    https://oig.justice.gov/press/2016/2016-09-28.pdf



    DOJ OIG Releases Report on the Handling of Firearm Purchase Denials through

    the National Instant Criminal Background Check System

    The

    Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of the

    Inspector General (OIG)
    announce

    d today the

    release of a report that examined aspects of the National Instant Criminal Background Check
    System (NICS). NICS, which is administered by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), is used
    by Federal Firearms Licensees, importers, and manufacturers to determine whether a
    prospective purchaser is legally prohibited from buying a firearm. The FBI processed more than

    51 million NICS transactions from 2008 to 2014, of which 556,496, or about 1 percent, were

    denied.
    When the FBI denies a sale, it refers the matter to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
    Explosives (ATF) for additional review, possible firearm recovery, and consideration to pursue
    prosecution by the

    U.S. Attorney’s Offices (USAO). Between 2008 and 2015, ATF formally

    referred 509 NICS denial cases that included 558 subjects for possible prosecution, and the

    USAOs accepted 254 of these subjects, or less than 32 subjects per year, for consideration of
    prosecution.
     

    Ark

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    Were it up to those four, Indiana wouldn't honor out of state license and permits, nor have a license of its own. They'd be happy if no private citizens were allowed to keep or bear arms.

    I'm quite sure Diekhoff would love nothing more than to sit behind his desk and stamp "DENIED" on every permit application that wasn't a personal friend of his.

    I'm honestly surprised the city council hasn't passed an AWB yet, for the sole purpose of wasting our money on a pointless court case just like they're wasting our money on a court battle to force the annexation that nobody wanted.
     

    diver dan

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    St John is in northwest indiana, pretty uptight town.RICH PEOPLE in this town, they will freak out if they saw a gun,world war three is coming today if they saw one they would think.It is next door to illinois on border.
     

    actaeon277

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    It was 0.04%. I'll have to find the link I used in my math on it, here's a blurb on the report:
    https://oig.justice.gov/press/2016/2016-09-28.pdf



    DOJ OIG Releases Report on the Handling of Firearm Purchase Denials through

    the National Instant Criminal Background Check System

    The

    Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of the

    Inspector General (OIG)
    announce

    d today the

    release of a report that examined aspects of the National Instant Criminal Background Check
    System (NICS). NICS, which is administered by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), is used
    by Federal Firearms Licensees, importers, and manufacturers to determine whether a
    prospective purchaser is legally prohibited from buying a firearm. The FBI processed more than

    51 million NICS transactions from 2008 to 2014, of which 556,496, or about 1 percent, were

    denied.
    When the FBI denies a sale, it refers the matter to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
    Explosives (ATF) for additional review, possible firearm recovery, and consideration to pursue
    prosecution by the

    U.S. Attorney’s Offices (USAO). Between 2008 and 2015, ATF formally

    referred 509 NICS denial cases that included 558 subjects for possible prosecution, and the

    USAOs accepted 254 of these subjects, or less than 32 subjects per year, for consideration of
    prosecution.

    So.. insignificant.
    Or course, THAT wasn't in the story.
     

    actaeon277

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    Yeah, Southwest only had a couple of weak fan blades. What harm could come of that?

    Would you accept 4 out of whatever as your plant's quality control results?

    4 pounds out of 400 million pounds? Depends on what we're making. Refrigerators don't have the same standards as automobile crash cages.

    And my point is, the article makes it seem like it's a big deal.
    Numerically, it barely registers.
     

    Dead Duck

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    Yeah, Southwest only had a couple of weak fan blades. What harm could come of that?

    Would you accept 4 out of whatever as your plant's quality control results?

    These are just loose screws. We just need to tighten them down.
     

    Slapstick

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    Bwahaha, do these pinheads realize that Indiana already has national reciprocity?

    IC 35-37-2-21(b).

    What a stupid, moronic move.

    Don't you mean 35-47-2-21(b) which states:

    Recognition of retail dealers' licenses and licenses to carry handguns issued by other states

    Sec. 21. (a) Retail dealers' licenses issued by other states or foreign countries will not be recognized in Indiana except for sales at wholesale.
    (b) Licenses to carry handguns, issued by other states or foreign countries, will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana.


    IC 35-37 seems to deal with trials, just saying.
     

    Mark 1911

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    I do not know what the criteria are for being appointed to Chief of Police in these cities. But one thing is clear, they do not require any knowledge of the law.
     

    busted1200

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    I do not know what the criteria are for being appointed to Chief of Police in these cities. But one thing is clear, they do not require any knowledge of the law.

    Sniffing the mayors butt. Just ask anyone here in Evansville. Our chief has no business being in office. He’s too busy wanting to take kids to Disney then supporting guys on the front line. Anything to make himself look good to the public, but the working grunts know how worthless he is. He will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat if your not in the “click”.
     

    drillsgt

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    I'm quite sure Diekhoff would love nothing more than to sit behind his desk and stamp "DENIED" on every permit application that wasn't a personal friend of his.

    I'm honestly surprised the city council hasn't passed an AWB yet, for the sole purpose of wasting our money on a pointless court case just like they're wasting our money on a court battle to force the annexation that nobody wanted.

    This was the way it used to be in MI prior to 2000 when they went shall issue. The gun store where I worked was a good contributor to the county sheriff and the boss and his son got unrestricted permits, I had 10x the training and got a 'restricted' one. Back then even that was something of a coup for that county.
     
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