.40 Cal Declining?

[gglass]

I'll take more .40 please!

Anybody ready to offload those outdated and ineffective .40 S&W weapons or ammo, just send them my way.

 

[Sigblitz]

Recently bought a 23fde, 35 department marked KSP, 22 department marked ISEP, 22rtfg, and unissued 23rtfg. They'll come back, but not this cheap.

 

[JettaKnight]

The caliber itself is no less effective than it has been for the last 30 years.

I think it's just hipsters turning up their noses at it. Just not cool enough for instagram commandos anymore.

 

[afcolt]

Thank you all for the insight!


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[Peacekeeper3073]

I got to check out the 17m before the gen 5 release. My bil had one of the 150 issued to IMPD and the slide would roll off during a dry fire. They were sent back. I have a couple of his old duty guns. That would have been a nice one to have.

Were they reissued the M model or switched to G5's ?

 

[Route 45]

If you like .40 and want one of the best compact poly frame pistols on the market, this is a smoking deal. Fully $100 less than what I have seen the 9mm model going for. Having owned both Glocks and M&Ps in .40 caliber, I'd have to say that the M&P is much more pleasant to shoot.

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/198821

 

[Sigblitz]

Smokin' deal

 

[Sigblitz]

Were they reissued the M model or switched to G5's ?

He is with 9mm. Not sure which. G22 before the M. I have the g22. It's been blessed by the IMPD armorer.

 

[Sigblitz]

It's a 9mm, old one. U know where one is for $400.

Edit: wrong door. Wife was texting wanting something. They have needs too.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

 

[AmmoManAaron]

 

[AmmoManAaron]

 

[AmmoManAaron]

Disclaimer: The above meme posts are all meant to be in good fun.

But I truly do hate .40 S&W...not for any scientific reason, but rather because it killed .41 AE - a truly superior caliber (in that niche) already on the market for a couple of years at the time the .40 S&W was introduced. Marketing power alone ended up making the difference.

ETA: basic info on .41 AE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Action_Express

Keep in mind that when the .40 S&W was introduced in 1990, there were probably fewer projectiles available to the handloader in .400" than there were in .410". Add the fact that most .41 AE ammo was coming from Israel and .41 AE firearms were coming almost exclusively from various foreign countries, it should be no surprise that the U.S. ammo and firearms makers backed S&W's play for that market segment. S&W was late to the party with an inferior cartridge design and yet they won out.

 

[edporch]

I have some .40SW pistols, and what I like is, I can swap out the barrel for an OEM .357 Sig barrel.

I really like the .357 Sig round.
It's a hot accurate round.

For self defense rounds I use
Underwood
357 Sig 125 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point
Muzzle Velocity: 1475 fps
Muzzle Energy: 604 ft lbs

 

[cce1302]

I have some .40SW pistols, and what I like is, I can swap out the barrel for an OEM .357 Sig barrel.

I really like the .357 Sig round.
It's a hot accurate round.

For self defense rounds I use
Underwood
357 Sig 125 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point
Muzzle Velocity: 1475 fps
Muzzle Energy: 604 ft lbs

Some have conversion to 9mm as well. I haven't bothered to get other barrels at this point, but some day...who knows?

 

[AmmoManAaron]

I have some .40SW pistols, and what I like is, I can swap out the barrel for an OEM .357 Sig barrel.

I really like the .357 Sig round.
It's a hot accurate round.

For self defense rounds I use
Underwood
357 Sig 125 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point
Muzzle Velocity: 1475 fps
Muzzle Energy: 604 ft lbs

.357 Sig was a good idea, but check out the 9x22 Action Express (there is a snippet at the end of the .41 AE Wiki entry). It had the .357 Sig beat by six years (1988 vs 1994). If the .41 AE and 9mm AE had taken off, you would be able to easily swap between three calibers instead of just two. 9mm Luger for cheap practice, .41 AE for larger diameter bullets, and 9mm AE for slinging 9mm bullets at blazing fast speeds - and all with the same slide, only two different magazines, and two different recoil springs.

 

[billybob44]

Still carry a 40 but also have a 10mm I reload. Having them share the same size hole makes it easier to stick with the caliber.

Same here..Kind of like 38Spl./.357Mag.--44Spl./Mag.=In a Semi auto format..Bill.

 

[cce1302]

There are a lot of fascinating handgun calibers that make me ask "what if?"

.40 Super
.400 Corbon
.460 Rowland
960 Rowland
.22 TCM
9x25 Dillon

 

[AmmoManAaron]

There are a lot of fascinating handgun calibers that make me ask "what if?"

.40 Super
.400 Corbon
.460 Rowland
960 Rowland
.22 TCM
9x25 Dillon

Definitely! Of all of them though, I think the Action Express family really had the most "real world" potential for widespread growth and adoption.

Sadly, the .400 Corbon is barely clinging to life.
The .22 TCM/.22 TCM9R seemed to start off strong, but seems to be faltering a bit?
The 9x25 Dillon looks incredible, but I'm not sure how popular it is? I've been aware of it for a while, but I'm not seeing much of anything about it or products for it (dies and conversion barrels at most?).

 

[Spyco]

With the down turn in 40 popularity, I was able to get 2 USP's for around $800. Not bad since they virtually indestructible. A good time to test out mods on cheap 40's like slide cuts, reddot mounts, paint jobs, and stippling jobs. Not losing out as much when you decide to sell it.