9/11, inside job or not?

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    indyartisan

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    We did train them to fly planes in this country. We did provide weapons and training for Osama and his followers to fight Russians. Not sure that is enough to call it an inside job. I believe flying jet planes full of fuel into the trade centers and the resulting fires was enough to make them collapse.
     

    critter592

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    There are just too many unknowns, unknowns that the FEDS don't want to be public. My heart prays that this was not some kind of elite cover-up but my gut is telling me otherwise. It just STINKS of cover up. There are many interesting opinions in the video "Loose Change". However some have been debunked, some haven't. I don't think in any of our lifetime's we will ever know the truth. I was a BIG X-Files fan, (I had a thing for Dana Scully) The show would always close the same way "The truth is out there"


    You're a BIG X Files fan. So now you'll dig until you find your conspiracy. Disregarding that your favorite movie Loose Change has been completely debunked with evidence. Real evidence. Your heros were 18 when they made Loose Change and they have ZERO background in aircraft crash investigation yet they somehow know exactly how a crash should look like despite being wrong at EVERY turn you still believe them. So wrong they've re-edited their movie several times. But the truth is out there. And you will mentally masturbate until you get the answer you've decided on.

    What :poop:
     

    SemperFiUSMC

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    You're a BIG X Files fan. So now you'll dig until you find your conspiracy. Disregarding that your favorite movie Loose Change has been completely debunked with evidence. Real evidence. Your heros were 18 when they made Loose Change and they have ZERO background in aircraft crash investigation yet they somehow know exactly how a crash should look like despite being wrong at EVERY turn you still believe them. So wrong they've re-edited their movie several times. But the truth is out there. And you will mentally masturbate until you get the answer you've decided on.

    What :poop:

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    88GT

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    I could debate this subject for hours. I'm very passionate about what I believe happened here. This is actually on of my favorite debate-able topics. If anyone wants to debate the Kennedy or MLK's death, Area 51, The elite organization running the world, bring it on.... I'M READY...

    I'm up for a JFK assassination discussion. Though I haven't delved into it for years. Might have to give me time to refresh the memory. But let's start with some of the basics:

    1. Magic bullet theory: could a single round have made those series of wounds?

    2. Neck wound: entrance or exit?

    3. Head wound: same caliber round fired from same rifle as the neck wound or not?

    no I dont believe I got anything but a piece of paper and "bragging rights". I learned more about leadership and management in the military and put it to action than I ever did from a college coarse. also, my degree had nothing to do with me getting my current job. My military service did. and I make more than I ever would have with my degree. so for me it was a waste. Im glad it was paid for.

    I'll do you one better: I went to grad school for a master's degree that still sitting in the cardboard envelope they used to ship it to me after graduation. A $30K piece of paper. And I don't even know where it is right now. It's been 10 years since I graduated and I've worked a total of 6 months in jobs relating to my degree (and even that's a stretch since my degree was environmental science and my job was in a lab doing chemistry work). My current "employment" requires 54 hours of class and success passing of the state licensing test. I'm not even sure it requires a high school diploma, just that the individual be 18 or older. Was it a waste? Nope. At least not a total one.

    That you found a better source for things you find valuable speaks to YOUR personal choices, not necessarily the inherent value of the choices themselves. I know you're not knocking college per se, but it's my opinion that a person claiming to get absolutely nothing out of college is saying more about his own character than the college he attended.
     

    rambone

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    I think, the communist-feel goodism character, Martin Loser King, deserved what he got. His goal, sounded nice, has proven itself to be nothing short of a fantasy, and thus he was able to path the way for unequality and uncontitutional measures, and furthered the agenda of entitlement policies.

    MLK Jr a Communist? Deserved to be murdered? :n00b:

    Is that what you and your buddies talk about on Stormfront?

    Ending segregation didn't pave the way to entitlement. Socialists paved the way. If the mixing of races is what brought these things about, why is socialism so popular in your racially pure Aryan homeland?

    Is it just a coincidence that you chose to quote a phrase with the words "mein kempf" in it?
     

    DHolder

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    Well...while you kids were in college, doing what ever it is you were doing, I was standing in my living room watching planes fly into skysrapers. Before the first tower ever fell, I knew the way it had been hit, it was structuraly compromised. I have claimed many times I'm a simple man, not highly educated or well versed in politics. I can say, I don't belive anyone in this country would do that. Im not impressed with the government now or then, but I can't belive they would mastermind something like this. These guys cant find their butts let alone dream up something like this.

    Bin Laden on the other hand, ok, he may have had bombs planted in the towers to help the collapse, but I doubt it. Im not even sure, collapse was the intent, only that it was a bonus. This guy has motive, a evil mind is what it took to conjure up this type of plan. It takes a coward to send others to do this kind of deed, and an even bigger coward to hide in a cave afterwards.

    I find it hard to belive, anyone that watched what happened that day can say they think that wasn't an act of war, labled as terrorism, that was not pulled off by anyone who loves this country.
     
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    MLK Jr a Communist?


    Google it.


    Deserved to be murdered? :n00b:

    Abit harsh, I agree, but he played with fire and got burned. Im not going to mourn him.

    Not to mention the womenizing ways of the MLK, and other thing's liberals dont teach.




    Ending segregation didn't pave the way to entitlement. Socialists paved the way. If the mixing of races is what brought these things about, why is socialism so popular in your racially pure Aryan homeland?

    Yes, and who did the Socialist/Communist use to put they're foot in the door. :rolleyes:

    Socialism is an elitist agenda. Look at the law they have regarding speaking up or out, you'll get jailed for not following the status quo of feel goodism.

    However, even in Sweden, you see SWEDES, of all people getting furious and pushing hard right because of the abuse of the system by "asylum seekers".



    Is it just a coincidence that you chose to quote a phrase with the words "mein kempf" in it?

    Is this what you are reduced to? :laugh: I make a statement, however truthful it might be, isnt popular with the liberal teachings and you post crap?


    heilig ist mein kempf in diesem krieg. jedes mittel fur den sieg

    Mein Kempf, means "MY STRUGGLE"

    The phrase has ZERO TO DO WITH HITLER, kiddo. Good job, showing your own prejudicial views of the german tongue.

    The quote roughly says "Holy is my stuggle in this war, victory by any means."

    The phrase was taken from a German techno band, called E nomine, from the song Heilig. The translation is as follows:


    YouTube - E Nomine- Heilig Lyrics/Liedtext




    Pretty good song.
     

    rambone

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    Mein Kempf, means "MY STRUGGLE"

    The phrase has ZERO TO DO WITH HITLER, kiddo. Good job, showing your own prejudicial views of the german tongue.


    Must just be a coincidence then, Adolf.

    Its also a coincidence that 90% of what you write about revolves around race. Constantly talking about your white nationalist, segregated, racially pure version of what society should be like. This thread is supposed to be about 9/11 and still it comes up.
     

    steveh_131

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    Is this what you are reduced to? :laugh: I make a statement, however truthful it might be, isnt popular with the liberal teachings and you post crap?

    maybe he's also taking into account your white supremacist posts

    or maybe your anti-semitic posts

    or maybe the angry german music that you listen to

    or possibly the picture you posted where you look like the unabomber wearing a baby bjorn posing next to your hand-carved KKK totem poles

    never mind, you're right. he's way off-base.
     

    Joe Williams

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    This is yet another reason why I believe there is a cover up. The MOST secure, protected, building on the face of this plant, is the Pentagon. And the best security they have is a camera that records at 1 frame per second. I just can't believe that to be true. Heck, cellphone record better than that.

    You would then be mighty distressed to have seen some of the equipment we used to protect nuclear weapons, and the frequency with which it didn't work.
     

    Joe Williams

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    should be but do we really know if it is or not? And like Armed East Sider said why is there only a single hole in the Pentagon and no visual damage from where the wings would have hit?

    Because the airplane didn't hit the building, it hit the ground in front of it. The pilot must have closed his eyes.
     

    Lex Concord

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    While I don't think a lot of the official story adds up -- of course, government accountants probably think 2 + 2 = 22...that's why Social Security is still "viable" -- I question whether the holes in the story shines light on a conspiracy or a cover up of widespread gross incompetence.

    The real question is this: Does it matter at this point?

    Whatever the whole truth is, will anyone ever know?

    I honestly think that most in power see the conspiracy theories as a welcome distraction from their use of 9/11 as cover while they snipe at the Constitution.

    This is where the focus should be.
     

    WWIIIDefender

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    maybe he's also taking into account your white supremacist posts

    or maybe your anti-semitic posts

    or maybe the angry german music that you listen to

    or possibly the picture you posted where you look like the unabomber wearing a baby bjorn posing next to your hand-carved KKK totem poles

    never mind, you're right. he's way off-base.

    Sorry for the thread jack but I am not going to lie. I kinda wanna see the unabomber baby/kkk totem pole picture. That just sounds to funny not to see.
     

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    It would appear, considering the results of your poll, that reasoning and deduction capabilities are no different with a college degree or without one. I do not believe the U.S. government was involved in a conspiracy but do retain the thought that another country may have been involved in a conspiracy, particularly one that we went to war with.
     
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    Must just be a coincidence then, Adolf.

    Nothing coincindental about it. Its a German word, found in a German song, Stalin.




    Its also a coincidence that 90% of what you write about revolves around race.

    Hmmm :rolleyes: I dont agree, especially since the new rule took effect, perhaps my activity is proof?

    Why dont you do yourself a favor, PM me those posts, please, and then debunk them.

    Constantly talking about your white nationalist,


    I havent brought anything up related to that.



    segregated,

    Speaking in a historical context? Or in a prophetic context? Of which, what I've said is only meant to be informative, and certainly nothing Pat Buchanan hasnt said.:patriot:


    racially pure version of what society should be like.

    What a deceptive comment. Show me where I've uttered "RACIAL PURE".

    This thread is supposed to be about 9/11 and still it comes up.

    A poster, who is not NHV, brought up his desire to talk about conspiracy theories, since we're talking about the theories of 9/11.

    HE BROUGHT UP MLK, NOT ME. So we'll brand him a nazi, too.

    On the topic of MLK, execuse me for not accepting that peice of trash as hero; I dont worship communist, and I certainly wont worship someone who paved the way for entitlement policies, and unconstitutional policies to be passed.

    If this offends you, then dont read or reply, set me on ignore and your fairy rainbow, liberalistic utopian world can reign free once again.

    I am entitle to speak my mind, of which doesnt have to be of the sheepish mentality taught by liberal teachers.

    maybe he's also taking into account your white supremacist posts

    What supremacism? I dont say Whites are superior, infact, I have stated my admiration for certain Asians because of several aspects. I guess now that makes me some kind of anime freak (And no, I dont watch that silly crap, just cant think of anything else to described those who are obsessed with asians).

    If he feels my post are supemacism, then I pity him. :rolleyes:

    I HAVE NEVER STATED A DESIRE TO RULE OVER ANYONE, regardless of race/creed; Nor do I share the belief.


    or maybe your anti-semitic posts


    So it's anti-semitic to say the truth; Again, how hopeless you are in this arguement, because I've stated several times of my admiration and support for the Jewish's people right to self-determination. BUT CERTAINLY NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF ANY OTHER PEOPLE. Disagreeing with points of Zionism is not Anti-semitic, Mr. Abe Foxman.

    So many here will hate me for my support of WN, but not a single person here will denounce Israel, even though that state represents Jewish Nationalism. So whose going to get the title of Coward, because they want to be popular, or save face? Whose going to get the prestigous title of hypocrite, because they'll support something for one people, but not give all people that right. The right to self govern, and not be ruled by foreign peoples.


    or maybe the angry german music that you listen to


    What "Angry" German music? Heilig? Angry? It's appearant you have NOT LISTENED TO IT.

    But I'll tell you what, Im a half second away from going to the Zombie Ipod thread in the Survival forum, and pulling the names of INGO posters and you can explain how they're nazi, too.

    LOOK I FOUND NAZIS, look at they're playlist!!! ANGRY GERMAN MUSIC... LOLOLOLOL

    DISCLAIMER: None of the following posters are Nazis, sympathetic etc, just pointing out how ridiculous this guy is


    **** just hit the fan. Media blackout. No warning, all the sudden a zombie attack hits at work. All you have is your handgun and you i pod. Now! the life or death question: What do you have on your SHTF/Zomie slaying playlist?

    Clearly this is a matter of life and dead. What hard head banging songs do would get you in the mood and the adrenaline pumping hard while you fight your way home!

    Of course, the tactical advantage was to be silent while sneaking home as to not draw zombie attention. Though, for my question humor me that is a bang bang shoot the zombie up movie

    P.s. it may be acceptable to BLOW the zombies up providing you turn the ipod volume up :D

    A few of mine would be
    Drowning pool - bodies
    Three days grace - riot
    disterbed - Indestructable
    10,000 fists
    sticken
    forsaken
    down with the sickness
    enemy
    avenged sevenfold - after life
    ramstein - amerika
    ramstein - bang bang
    ramstein - Du Hast

    Hrmm... Here's some of mine...

    Megadeth - Symphony of Destruction
    Marilyn Manson - Ka-Boom Ka-Boom
    Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff
    Dope - Die MF Die
    Metallica - Damage, Inc.
    Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
    White Zombie - More Human Than Human
    Korn - Coming Undone
    Black Label Society - Fire It Up
    Drowning Pool - Bodies
    Rammstein - Links 2 3 4
    Rob Zombie - Superbeast

    That's just a few... and since you really can't do without this one...
    Queen - Another One Bites the Dust

    +1 for Wonderful World too...

    My zombie killin soundtrack is as follows :ar15::ar15:
    It's got a bit of everything for any kind of zombie I run into ;)

    Rammstein - Feuer Frei
    Rammstein - Moskua
    Disturbed - Down With the Sickness
    Papa Roach - Last Resort
    Linkin Park - New Divide
    Linkin Park - What I've Done
    Linkin Park - Numb
    Bach - Cello Suite No.1 i- Prelude
    Trace Adkins - I Got My Game On
    Trapt - Headstrong
    Basshunter - Privet Russia
    Dj Tiesto - Sweet Misery
    Blademasterz - Masterblade
    Drowning Pool - Bodies
    HSB - Counterweight
    Breaking Benjamin - Blow Me Away
    Nickelback - Animals
    AC/DC - Back in Black
    AC/DC - T.N.T
    AC/DC - Touch Too Much
    Crossfade - Colors
    Dope - Die MF Die
    Le 3'eme Oei - Si Triste










    or possibly the picture you posted where you look like the unabomber wearing a baby bjorn posing next to your hand-carved KKK totem poles

    KKK? LMAO:laugh: That is God Pillar of Heimdal, I doubt the KKK would ever tolerate it. Good job suggesting a lie, speaks volumes of your worthiness in speech, my split tongued friend.


    never mind, you're right. he's way off-base.


    Im not saying he's off, but that it's irrelevent. Do you comprehend this? I gave my opinion on MLK, and he NEVER EVER disputed it, he just ad homniemed.




    Rambone, Steve, this is my last word on the topic. The irrelevence of this is just too great to even continue. If you want, you can have your last "ha ha's", Im done with it.
     
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    Hoosier8

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    I am absoposilute that the buildings had 'help' coming down.
    But, I did not vote because I have no inkling of an idea who would benefit from their demolition.
    You know what they say, follow the money.

    Now, if Aliens were an option...

    You are correct sir! They did have help coming down, it was called gravity.
     
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