A Refugee Crisis, Not an Immigration Crisis

[Justus]

combine that with the palsy his is afflicted with and it's a sad case all around.

 

[Justus]

First planeload arrives back in Honduras:
U.S. sends first planeload of moms, children back to Honduras - LA Times

There are some statements and quotes that I think mrjarrell will find interesting.

 

[mrjarrell]

First planeload arrives back in Honduras:
U.S. sends first planeload of moms, children back to Honduras - LA Times

There are some statements and quotes that I think mrjarrell will find interesting.

Posted another version of that yesterday.

 

[KG1]

First planeload arrives back in Honduras:
U.S. sends first planeload of moms, children back to Honduras - LA Times

There are some statements and quotes that I think mrjarrell will find interesting.

How come this group isn't entitled to be "refugees"?

 

[mrjarrell]

How come this group isn't entitled to be "refugees"?

Because they weren't unaccompanied minors. The laws pretty cut and dried in that regard. Come with a parent and you don't get accorded the same status, even though you're still fleeing the same hell hole. It's just the way the law shakes out.

 

[indiucky]

You do know that the Daily Fail is the National Enquirer of Great Britain? Keep your salt, you'll need it more than I. I'm also doubting you read the article.

Says the man quoting the freaking New York Times....

 

[indiucky]

First planeload arrives back in Honduras:
U.S. sends first planeload of moms, children back to Honduras - LA Times

There are some statements and quotes that I think mrjarrell will find interesting.

Nothing in there trashing Christians, Texans, or Republicans so I imagine he would find that rather dull....

 

[KG1]

Because they weren't unaccompanied minors. The laws pretty cut and dried in that regard. Come with a parent and you don't get accorded the same status, even though you're still fleeing the same hell hole. It's just the way the law shakes out.

But a refugee is a refugee no matter what the law says. We should still take them in correct? THEY ARE REFUGEES NOT MIGRANTS.

Another thing that jumped out to me in the article was that they only finally decided to try and become "refugees" because "they heard that there was a new U.S. policy that made it easier for unaccompanied children or single women with at least one child to remain in the country."

 

[cobber]

It's just the way the law shakes out.

But a refugee is a refugee no matter what the law says. We should still take them in correct? THEY ARE REFUGEES.

Another thing that jumped out to me in the article was that they only finally decided to try and become "refugees" because "they heard that there was a new U.S. policy that made it easier for unaccompanied children or single women with at least one child to remain in the country."

Yeah, what's this 'the law is the law' BS when we're talking about the human rights of miserable huddled masses? Isn't that what the statists say?

Now, Mrjarrell, what was your address again?

 

[KG1]

Yeah, what's this 'the law is the law' BS when we're talking about the human rights of miserable huddled masses? Isn't that what the statists say?

Now, Mrjarrell, what was your address again?

I guess they only qualify to become refugees if the law says so. Even if they come from the same hell hole. That's just the way the law shakes out.

You can't be refugees. You are illegal migrants. Sorry about your luck.

 

[mrjarrell]

But a refugee is a refugee no matter what the law says. We should still take them in correct? THEY ARE REFUGEES NOT MIGRANTS.

Another thing that jumped out to me in the article was that they only finally decided to try and become "refugees" because "they heard that there was a new U.S. policy that made it easier for unaccompanied children or single women with at least one child to remain in the country."

I guess they only qualify to become refugees if the law says so. Even if they come from the same hell hole. That's just the way the law shakes out.

You can't be refugees. You are illegal migrants. Sorry about your luck.

Unfortunately, that's exactly the way things are. We, as a supposed nation of laws have said that it is to be that way. Personally, I think a refugee is a refugee. A mom with a kid deserves as fair a shake as an unaccompanied minor. They're both fleeing a hellhole for the promise of a better life. Just like Cubans and many others have done over the years. They've chosen to make the journey they have because there's no other realistic alternative. Going to the embassy and applying would result in years of paperwork and probable denial. Desperate people can't wait, sorry to say. We'll just have to let the system play out down there for now, as imperfect as it is to each persons outlook on the matter.

 

[D-Ric902]

We don't need any more legislation to secure the border. Border security legislation has passed and been signed numerous times just in my memory.

The House just needs to pass funding for the laws already on the books. All the things that were defunded in the prior laws as soon as it was off the front pages.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Unfortunately, that's exactly the way things are. We, as a supposed nation of laws have said that it is to be that way. Personally, I think a refugee is a refugee. A mom with a kid deserves as fair a shake as an unaccompanied minor. They're both fleeing a hellhole for the promise of a better life. Just like Cubans and many others have done over the years. They've chosen to make the journey they have because there's no other realistic alternative. Going to the embassy and applying would result in years of paperwork and probable denial. Desperate people can't wait, sorry to say. We'll just have to let the system play out down there for now, as imperfect as it is to each persons outlook on the matter.

That presupposes that it is my responsibility as well as every other citizen's responsibility to pay to alleviate this desperation on the recipient's terms. This is a form of larceny by force of government that is exactly upside-down from the concept of charity.

It seems to me that they decided that there is no other realistic alternative as soon as they caught wind of what the traitor in chief had to say about the matter. Obama opens his d*ck sucker and all of a sudden, instant crisis, despair, and no other alternative, just add water.

 

[mrjarrell]

So much for a family friendly INGO.

 

[churchmouse]

So much for a family friendly INGO.

I am missing what this means.......

I admit to not being the sharpest tack on the board but what are you inferring with that statement.

 

[churchmouse]

Unfortunately, that's exactly the way things are. We, as a supposed nation of laws have said that it is to be that way. Personally, I think a refugee is a refugee. A mom with a kid deserves as fair a shake as an unaccompanied minor. They're both fleeing a hellhole for the promise of a better life. Just like Cubans and many others have done over the years. They've chosen to make the journey they have because there's no other realistic alternative. Going to the embassy and applying would result in years of paperwork and probable denial. Desperate people can't wait, sorry to say. We'll just have to let the system play out down there for now, as imperfect as it is to each persons outlook on the matter.

Oh, I get it now (duh)
They are changing status for acceptance. They are illegal aliens.

How much more can the system withstand. There are limits to everything. These people are taking over. Look around and tell me what you see. Be honest and not snarky. I am seeing a massive influx in out area. And they are the absolute worst drivers on the planet.

 

[IndyDave1776]

So much for a family friendly INGO.

Family friendly ╪ allowing any warm body who can get here to live on our dime on his terms.

 

[cobber]

I guess they only qualify to become refugees if the law says so. Even if they come from the same hell hole. That's just the way the law shakes out.

You can't be refugees. You are illegal migrants. Sorry about your luck.

Plenty of hell holes out there. And of course it's' for the children'.

I don't think we can save the world, and at least it would be nice if the goverrnment followed the law.

 

[churchmouse]

Plenty of hell holes out there. And of course it's' for the children'.

I don't think we can save the world, and at least it would be nice if the goverrnment followed the law.

Bingo...we have a winner.

Follow existing laws. We have to. WTF.

 

[mrjarrell]

Oh, I get it now (duh)
They are changing status for acceptance. They are illegal aliens.

How much more can the system withstand. There are limits to everything. These people are taking over. Look around and tell me what you see. Be honest and not snarky. I am seeing a massive influx in out area. And they are the absolute worst drivers on the planet.

Nope. I was referring to Dave's language.