An OC Guide to Protecting Your Rights: What to do when LEO stops you

[bw210]

Great post - watched the "don't talk to the police" again - well worth the watch if you haven't seen. Rep to you.

 

[mtyt61783]

That was profound!!! Thank you very much, It's sucks, that the leo on the video was telling the truth about 2 strikes. being in the defence chair & the professional witness. @ least now i kno what 2 do so i dont get the 3rd one, if ever in that situation.

 

[tnek]

Didnt someone somewher make business size cards to carry in your wallet outlining these points?? I cant remember where but I have seen one.

 

[jedi]

Didnt someone somewher make business size cards to carry in your wallet outlining these points?? I cant remember where but I have seen one.

Are you referring to these?

Note these do not have to do directly with the OC and LEO. More like OC and biz interactions.

 

[tnek]

Are you referring to these?

Note these do not have to do directly with the OC and LEO. More like OC and biz interactions.

I actually saw a card outlining what to say to the cops along the lines of saying no to any illegal search, ask for a lawyer and shut up.

 

[mk2ja]

I actually saw a card outlining what to say to the cops along the lines of saying no to any illegal search, ask for a lawyer and shut up.

When I joined the USCCA, I got a couple cards in my membership package that had that kind of advice printed on them.

Sorry my iPhone 3G doesn't have autofocus, so it's blurry.

 

[KahrFan]

WOW. I learned a few things. Thank you very much. All I can teach you at this point is "pintufo" "peen two foe" It means Smurf in Spanish

 

[jedi]

@tnek,

The text on the 4th and 5th in the OP will fit a WORD file so you can put it in your wallet. That is what I did with it to keep it with me and on the back side I have the phone number of several attys just in case I need them.

PM me if you want the file. I think I still have it.

 

[victor 1971]

What an informative video. I'm forwarding this to everyone in my address book. Thanks. Praise the bill of rights.

 

[Bill of Rights]

What an informative video. I'm forwarding this to everyone in my address book. Thanks. Praise the bill of rights.

Why thank you!

Seriously, good post, Jedi. Thanks for doing this.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Delmar]

I have been advised never to waive a constitutional right protecting my liberty.

It would serve us all well to memorize this line! My daughter was stopped by the police last year and they bullied her into giving permission to search the car. I taught her the line "you have no reason to search my car, and you don't have my permission" but I think I like this one better.

 

[smoking357]

Good post. I recommend having a card in your wallet which you can hand to the cop advising him of your refusal to waive your rights.

I know David Schalk, an aggressive criminal defense attorney in Bloomington, has a card printed which he encourages you to put in your wallet for moments such as these.

It says substantially:

I do not consent to any search.
I wish to remain silent.
I demand an attorney, and I will not speak without my attorney present.

My attorney is David Schalk, 812-336-9093, and he will explain why.

 

[CB45]

Thanks for the information!!!

 

[mdad6942]

What a great post, thank you for the info

 

[KAS]

That's great but who will remember all of that, in the heat of the moment, without notes? The onus remains on the law-abiding.

 

[jedi]

That's great but who will remember all of that, in the heat of the moment, without notes? The onus remains on the law-abiding.

1) Copy
2) Paste into WORD
3) Print and carry
4) Ask me via email for a copy of the wallet size version so you can print.

 

[KAS]

fair enough - you are, after all, the Jedi master and I am just learning. I've only had a carry permit 3 months. I have much to learn

 

[JordanN]

Don't forget the most important step: comply completely. You do not know what reasons and limited information that the law enforcement officers are working with when they stopped you.

If you disagree with their actions, court is the place to handle it, not the street.

 

[vitamink]

Plus 1 for jordan...that is how citizens get jammed up.

 

[jayincville]

Don't forget the most important step: comply completely. You do not know what reasons and limited information that the law enforcement officers are working with when they stopped you.

If you disagree with their actions, court is the place to handle it, not the street.

You're kidding , right? Comply completely? Submit to a search for no reason?
My motto is, deny, deny, deny. Ask for a lawyer. Never admit to anything. Go spend a night night in jail but never give any information that will cause you an extended stay.