ATF and stabilizing braces

[hoosierdoc]

Could slide fire be next?

 

[TECKS]

i believe so.... Maybe any gun that is non-sporting.

 

[FireBirdDS]

Is the prevailing attitude or fear that the ATF has eyes and ears everywhere now?

 

[KG1]

You don't think this is odd that for the first time EVER they have attempted to regulate the use of something rather than its construction is significant?

I do think it's rather odd that they regulate the use of something in a manner other than which it was intended. I also think the wording in the letter exemplifies that point. They classify the usage alone without physically modifying the original apparatus as a "redesign."

 

[ryan3030]

Is the prevailing attitude or fear that the ATF has eyes and ears everywhere now?

I think the prevailing fear is that saving $200 isn't worth risking a $10,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

 

[TECKS]

I do think it's rather odd that they regulate the use of something in a manner other than which it was intended. I also think the wording in the letter exemplifies that point. They classify the usage alone without physically modifying the original apparatus as a "redesign."

exactly they changed the definition to their liking.......

 

[FireBirdDS]

For momentarily raising an arm brace to one's shoulder? Am I understanding this correctly?

 

[TECKS]

Is the prevailing attitude or fear that the ATF has eyes and ears everywhere now?

Oh trust me they do.

 

[Vigilant]

Just so everyone is clear, and can stop sending shyte to ATFE's tech branch for a ruling, if you put it to your shoulder, it is now NFA! So quit writing and asking!

 

[TECKS]

Just so everyone is clear, and can stop sending shyte to ATFE's tech branch for a ruling, if you put it to your shoulder, it is now NFA! So quit writing and asking!

Thats what I said in 2nd post on the 2nd page.

 

[MontereyC6]

Just so everyone is clear, and can stop sending shyte to ATFE's tech branch for a ruling, if you put it to your shoulder, it is now NFA! So quit writing and asking!

Common sense just isn't too common, huh?

 

[Vigilant]

Common sense just isn't too common, huh?

Nope, but now we need to call and ask that, if when we remove it from our shoulder, is it no longer NFA, or does it stay NFA and become contraband?

 

[Trigger Time]

I think every gun owner should buy a new sig brace now

 

[Trigger Time]

Oh trust me they do.

I don't trust anybody

 

[KG1]

Nope, but now we need to call and ask that, if when we remove it from our shoulder, is it no longer NFA, or does it stay NFA and become contraband?

You're using it as a shoulder stock not an armbrace. Violation!!

 

[Vigilant]

You're using it as a shoulder stock not an armbrace. Violation!!

I understand that, but it used to be, once NFA, always NFA, unless you apply to have it removed from the registry! And, so it is clear, I don't own a brace, for this exact reason!

 

[M67]

I found this appropriate

ATF Clarification - Imgur

Courtacy of tradertator here https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...f-change-postion-sig-brace-4.html#post5543431



Personally.....it's a pistol.....that's just my opinion though. The pic in the link, pistol....just really really kinky pistol

 

[KG1]

I understand that, but it used to be, once NFA, always NFA, unless you apply to have it removed from the registry! And, so it is clear, I don't own a brace, for this exact reason!

I see your point. Once you put the brace to your shoulder the firearm automatically becomes an NFA item.

 

[Roadie]

What if I use somebody else's shoulder?

 

[KG1]

What if I use somebody else's shoulder?

They have to pay a tax stamp.