Billy Graham has passed into glory at age 99

[indiucky]

I may be indeed in error but I don't recall Jesus dedicating his life to accumulating $25,000,000 PLUS a private jet.

My first century history is a little rusty but I do not think dollars nor jets were around then....I've accumulated a lot of things but they are not what I have dedicated my life to. My understanding is that I can not take them with me when I go to Kingdom....

Not even my K 22's...And that hurts...It really does...

 

[rvb]

I may be indeed in error but I don't recall Jesus dedicating his life to accumulating $25,000,000 PLUS a private jet.

Is that what Graham dedicated his life to?
So you believe he worshiped the $ more than Christ? That the $ was his goal vs bringing people to Christ?

James 4:11
Speak not evil one of another, brethren.

Matthew 7 7
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

I struggled with the rich man in Matthew 19 for a long time. I'm far far ... far ... from a man of wealth. Constant worry over job, mortgage, kid's college, etc etc. But regardless, I used to look at what we have in America, how "wealthy" even our poor are compared to other parts of the world and I was worried I was like that man who couldn't give it all away for others. Once I gained some perspective over the idea that Jesus' point was that NO man can be so perfect to get to heaven through his deeds, I realized that having some things... a smart phone, a savings account, retirement savings, guns I don't "need," etc wouldn't keep me from Heaven. In fact, I now fear the WORRY over money causes me to put more of an emphasis on it than I should vs trusting the Lord will provide.

I'm not going to judge Graham for hanging on to some $ when he has done far more to spread the Gospel than I ever will .....

-rvb

 

[indiucky]

I struggled with the rich man in Matthew 19 for a long time. I'm far far ... far ... from a man of wealth. Constant worry over job, mortgage, kid's college, etc etc. But regardless, I used to look at what we have in America, how "wealthy" even our poor are compared to other parts of the world and I was worried I was like that man who couldn't give it all away for others. Once I gained some perspective over the idea that Jesus' point was that NO man can be so perfect to get to heaven through his deeds, I realized that having some things... a smart phone, a savings account, retirement savings, etc wouldn't keep me from Heaven. In fact, I now fear the WORRY over money causes me to put more of an emphasis on it than I should vs trusting the Lord will provide.

I'm not going to judge Graham for hanging on to some $ when he has done far more to spread the Gospel than I ever will .....

-rvb

Thanks for sharing that Sir...I am fresh enough from my dunking in Oil Creek to just begin fretting about Matthew 19 and you just alleviated quite a bit of that for me...Thanks for sharing and may God Bless...

At some point perhaps every Christian looks to Heaven and asks, "Am I supposed to be a Hippie Lord?"

Nope...Just keep studying the Word and it will come to you...Thanks again Ryan...

 

[Bennettjh]

That's sad. He led A LOT of folks to the Lord.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

Went to his Crusade while stationed in Okinawa in 1980. He was a servant of God and a man above reproach. In an age of hucksters who occupy the pulpit, he was a dedicated messenger of Love, Hope and True Salvation through Christ's Grace and Forgiveness.

 

[Bennettjh]

Is that what Graham dedicated his life to?
So you believe he worshiped the $ more than Christ? That the $ was his goal vs bringing people to Christ?

James 4:11
Speak not evil one of another, brethren.

Matthew 7 7
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

I struggled with the rich man in Matthew 19 for a long time. I'm far far ... far ... from a man of wealth. Constant worry over job, mortgage, kid's college, etc etc. But regardless, I used to look at what we have in America, how "wealthy" even our poor are compared to other parts of the world and I was worried I was like that man who couldn't give it all away for others. Once I gained some perspective over the idea that Jesus' point was that NO man can be so perfect to get to heaven through his deeds, I realized that having some things... a smart phone, a savings account, retirement savings, guns I don't "need," etc wouldn't keep me from Heaven. In fact, I now fear the WORRY over money causes me to put more of an emphasis on it than I should vs trusting the Lord will provide.

I'm not going to judge Graham for hanging on to some $ when he has done far more to spread the Gospel than I ever will .....

-rvb

Well said.

 

[chezuki]

Remember when any discussion of religion was off limits on INGO? That was cool.

 

[cayce]

For those that fall for the TV preacher crap I see where Peter Poppof now offers a FREE water sample that will make all your dreams come true. Just think. 3 ounces of tap water, and a $25 donation for 'handling' and you too can own 10 Glocks........or 10 Tupperware sets. Whichever you prefer.

 

[JettaKnight]

Remember when any discussion of religion was off limits on INGO? That was cool.

No it wasn't.


You got to admit that the religious threads are far more civil than may political threads. I can't recall a single member getting banned for any discussion of a religious nature since lifting the ban.

 

[indiucky]

Remember when any discussion of religion was off limits on INGO? That was cool.

I don't know Chez...I think we have handled the transition fairly well...IMHO and in no way saying I am right...I've learned a lot and we tend to be very civil...

Again...IMHO....

 

[rob63]

Remember when any discussion of religion was off limits on INGO? That was cool.

Honestly, this seems to have been more a discussion of Billy Graham than a discussion of religion. That it has included some religion is as natural as discussing music when David Bowie died.

 

[HoughMade]

For those that fall for the TV preacher crap I see where Peter Poppof now offers a FREE water sample that will make all your dreams come true. Just think. 3 ounces of tap water, and a $25 donation for 'handling' and you too can own 10 Glocks........or 10 Tupperware sets. Whichever you prefer.

So....they all look alike to you.

 

[BugI02]

For those that fall for the TV preacher crap I see where Peter Poppof now offers a FREE water sample that will make all your dreams come true. Just think. 3 ounces of tap water, and a $25 donation for 'handling' and you too can own 10 Glocks........or 10 Tupperware sets. Whichever you prefer.

Matthew 13:14

 

[Itchytriggerfinger]

Hope he got the memo that Jesus flies coach.

 

[Jsomerset]

Never mind.

 

[femurphy77]

Back in the early 80's he had a fundraiser for his school in Tulsa. Things weren't going well and they were nowhere near the intended goal. He went on the air one night and told his viewers that if the goal wasn't attained that God would recall him.

In the realm of omnipotent beings I'm guessing that 35 plus years to enforce the recall notice is millionths of a second in human terms!

 

[Kutnupe14]

Hope he got the memo that Jesus flies coach.

Shenanigans. He files in the cockpit. I should know, he's my co-pilot.

 

[HoughMade]

Back in the early 80's he had a fundraiser for his school in Tulsa. Things weren't going well and they were nowhere near the intended goal. He went on the air one night and told his viewers that if the goal wasn't attained that God would recall him.

In the realm of omnipotent beings I'm guessing that 35 plus years to enforce the recall notice is millionths of a second in human terms!

They all look alike to you too.

That was Oral Roberts. Not in the same league, not even close.

 

[femurphy77]

They all look alike to you too.

That was Oral Roberts. Not in the same league, not even close.

WOW! So now I've been labeled! Wasn't meant as disparaging just anecdotal. Ironic.

I can give you REAL ammunition if you truly need to label me. I'll end up banned but no personal loss to me, let me know.

 

[Itchytriggerfinger]

Just found out I have Jimmy Swaggart in the televangelist dead pool. Looks like I'm gonna have to empty half the cart on cdnn.